Hand wapen
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Hand wapen
Ek is op soek na n handwapen 9mm kaliber. Iets ordentelik wat ek elke dag kan dra, of op die heup of op die enkel. Ek klim baie lere en dakke so dit moet gemaklik wees. Moet slaan krag he en moet kan aanvaller stop.
Wat sal julle aan beveel wat nie die bank sal breek nie en wat ek sommer 2de hands kan koop?
Nie Rocka felle nie maar die arm fella!!
Wat sal julle aan beveel wat nie die bank sal breek nie en wat ek sommer 2de hands kan koop?
Nie Rocka felle nie maar die arm fella!!
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Re: Hand wapen
Dankie Piet. Sal hom kontak.
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Re: Hand wapen
grumpy
i've got a mint condition star 30pk , it's done about 15 rounds . i want 2,5k comes with 2 mags . i haven't even shot it yet i've got it in my safe on a sap539 storage permit while the licence comes though .
pm me if you interested .
bobby
i've got a mint condition star 30pk , it's done about 15 rounds . i want 2,5k comes with 2 mags . i haven't even shot it yet i've got it in my safe on a sap539 storage permit while the licence comes though .
pm me if you interested .
bobby
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Re: Hand wapen
Piet, ek het jou my bbm pin gestuur.
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Re: Hand wapen
Grumpy ek hoop jy kom reg maar "ordentelik" " gemaklik" "nie te duur" pas nie so lekker n die selde sin nie.As jy van plan is om die wapen permanent te dra moet jy maar plan maak en die regte wapen koop van die begin af.Jy kan nou n Glock gen4 kry onder R8000 en gen3 vir so R7500.Dis nie soveel geld nie as jy vat hy sal jou maklik 20 jaar diens gee sonder moeilikheid.
Groete
Groete
Klein klein jakkalsies krap
En daai klein klein jakkalsies maak
Dat ek in my stoel rondkrioel
Is dit hoe n broek vol miere voel?
En daai klein klein jakkalsies maak
Dat ek in my stoel rondkrioel
Is dit hoe n broek vol miere voel?
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Beer (Christo)
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Re: Hand wapen
Hallo Ge
Ek wil my selfverdediging 357 mag Rollie ruil vir 'n goeie 9mm pistool. Ek het gedink aan iets soos 'n Glock 17 (die 19 se se handvatsel? voel te kort vir my), maar sal graag will hoor wat se ander modelle ek ook moet na kyk soos H&K of S&W.
Ek weet nie te veel van die verskillende pistole nie, maar sal graag wil weet waar is winkles om Jhb waar ek die verskillende wapens kan pas en dalk Skiet ook.
Ek dink ook die tyd het gekom dat die selfverdeding wapen minder in die kluis moet le
Ek wil my selfverdediging 357 mag Rollie ruil vir 'n goeie 9mm pistool. Ek het gedink aan iets soos 'n Glock 17 (die 19 se se handvatsel? voel te kort vir my), maar sal graag will hoor wat se ander modelle ek ook moet na kyk soos H&K of S&W.
Ek weet nie te veel van die verskillende pistole nie, maar sal graag wil weet waar is winkles om Jhb waar ek die verskillende wapens kan pas en dalk Skiet ook.
Ek dink ook die tyd het gekom dat die selfverdeding wapen minder in die kluis moet le
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Re: Hand wapen
Beer H&K is baie goed maar vrek duur.Seker van R10000 opwaards.S@W is ook puik,ek het een.Hulle is so om en by R8000 as jy kan kry.Dink Zimbi Books in Pta het.Probeer ook Dave Sheer Arms in Jhb en Southern Arms.Die Glock is ook goed.Ek het n 19 vir elke dag dra en my vrou skiet kompetisie met haar G17.Sy het n kleiner CZ Rami vir elke dag dra...vir my n ongemaklike keuse.
Klein klein jakkalsies krap
En daai klein klein jakkalsies maak
Dat ek in my stoel rondkrioel
Is dit hoe n broek vol miere voel?
En daai klein klein jakkalsies maak
Dat ek in my stoel rondkrioel
Is dit hoe n broek vol miere voel?
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Beer (Christo)
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Re: Hand wapen
Dankie Ge.
Ek sal weer gaan kyk na die G19 vir elke dag dra soos jy se.
Ek het huidiglik toegewyde sport en jag status by SAJWV. Sal graag by 'n pistoolklub dan wil aansluit om iets soos 'n G17 dan ook te kry. Glo nie ek sal onder die SAJWV sport Skiet lisensie kan kry vir 'n tweede 9mm nie?
Ek sal weer gaan kyk na die G19 vir elke dag dra soos jy se.
Ek het huidiglik toegewyde sport en jag status by SAJWV. Sal graag by 'n pistoolklub dan wil aansluit om iets soos 'n G17 dan ook te kry. Glo nie ek sal onder die SAJWV sport Skiet lisensie kan kry vir 'n tweede 9mm nie?
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Beer (Christo)
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Re: Hand wapen
Piet
Ek het mos gese ek weet nie baie van die nie.
Soos ek verstaan beteken dubbel aksie dat as die hammer vorentoe is ( nie oorgehaal nie), kan ek net die sneller trek as ek one up is, amper soos met die rollie.
Pre-cock??? Is dit single action? M.a.w. as jy one up het moet jy eers die hammer terug trek voor jy kan Skiet??
Ek het mos gese ek weet nie baie van die nie.
Soos ek verstaan beteken dubbel aksie dat as die hammer vorentoe is ( nie oorgehaal nie), kan ek net die sneller trek as ek one up is, amper soos met die rollie.
Pre-cock??? Is dit single action? M.a.w. as jy one up het moet jy eers die hammer terug trek voor jy kan Skiet??
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Re: Hand wapen
Ek wil dit nou nie hardop se nie maar ek was 19 toe het ek 'n browning hi- power met 'n compensater op gekoop. Het baie lekker geskiet, maar toe ekeendag die pistool skoonmaak toe dry fire ek hom terwyl die safety aan was net om te toets, kom toe met agter die safety werk nie. Was lekker stupid en het dit nie lank daarna verkoop vir die 357 nie. Groot fout, want het baie gesukkel om redelike groepe met die Rollie te Skiet. Dis hoekom hy maar in die kluis le
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Beer (Christo)
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My pa het nog een. Dink hy het hom in 1978 gekoop toe hy in die weermag was. Ek het eendag die strokie gekry toe ons getrek het, dink dit was iets soos R85
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Re: Hand wapen
In my opinie is n geweer sonder n "safety" beter as een met n safety.n safety is n meganiese ding sonder n brein.Hy maak n mens lui maak en kan maklik maak dat mens met tyd op dit staat maak.Die beste en eenigste safety van n vuurwapen is n mens se brien.Hou jou vinger weg van die sneller totdat jy op n teiken is wat jy wil skiet.n High Power is n great wapen maar ek dink onnodig swaar om rond te dra elke liewe oomblik van die dag en nag.Plastiek gun,kydex of goeie leer holster(Ross Leather) en goeie brein krag is die roete om te gaan.
Klein klein jakkalsies krap
En daai klein klein jakkalsies maak
Dat ek in my stoel rondkrioel
Is dit hoe n broek vol miere voel?
En daai klein klein jakkalsies maak
Dat ek in my stoel rondkrioel
Is dit hoe n broek vol miere voel?
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Re: Hand wapen
Grumpy, my experience over a number of years.
Started with a Z88 ( heavy and difficult to conceal effectively), carried that every day for a number of years, changed to a 1911 which reduced size and weight ,but limited capacity.
Got myself a M&P 9 a couple of years ago and never been happier. Relatively light and good mag capacity. Additionally, not really affected by sweat if you are going to carry every day.
The gun is not half cocked once the slide is racked and certainly not further cocked by the trigger, below is an explanation of how the firearm works.( off the M&P9 forum )
Regards Frank
"The M&P and the Glock striker springs are already "pre-cocked" when they are assembled outside of the gun ! That's why when you remove the spring cups from these style strikers the parts go flying about. Spring rates tend to constant over their 60 percent of deflection range, so when designing the springs for critical loads and / or critical rates this is taken into consideration . When you disassemble a striker you will find that indeed it requires you to compress the spring about 60 % of its resting length to re-assemble the striker. So when the M&P or the Glock striker is "cocked" by slide cycling, their striker springs are only being compressed about 1-2 intercoil distances more, this requires a only very short distance of compression to store the additional amount of energy desired to reliably cause the striker to set off the primer. So, the answer to your question, the M&P striker (and the Glock) is fully cocked when the striker is held back by the sear."
Started with a Z88 ( heavy and difficult to conceal effectively), carried that every day for a number of years, changed to a 1911 which reduced size and weight ,but limited capacity.
Got myself a M&P 9 a couple of years ago and never been happier. Relatively light and good mag capacity. Additionally, not really affected by sweat if you are going to carry every day.
The gun is not half cocked once the slide is racked and certainly not further cocked by the trigger, below is an explanation of how the firearm works.( off the M&P9 forum )
Regards Frank
"The M&P and the Glock striker springs are already "pre-cocked" when they are assembled outside of the gun ! That's why when you remove the spring cups from these style strikers the parts go flying about. Spring rates tend to constant over their 60 percent of deflection range, so when designing the springs for critical loads and / or critical rates this is taken into consideration . When you disassemble a striker you will find that indeed it requires you to compress the spring about 60 % of its resting length to re-assemble the striker. So when the M&P or the Glock striker is "cocked" by slide cycling, their striker springs are only being compressed about 1-2 intercoil distances more, this requires a only very short distance of compression to store the additional amount of energy desired to reliably cause the striker to set off the primer. So, the answer to your question, the M&P striker (and the Glock) is fully cocked when the striker is held back by the sear."
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Re: Hand wapen
Please help me, M&P stands for????? More and please??
I am not very familliar with hand guns. I had a Star 28 PK last about 18 years ago. Never had a hand gun again. Never needed it but nowadays you need a hand gun. I also want to get a handgun for my wife, she is 52kg and small build.
Thanks.
I am not very familliar with hand guns. I had a Star 28 PK last about 18 years ago. Never had a hand gun again. Never needed it but nowadays you need a hand gun. I also want to get a handgun for my wife, she is 52kg and small build.
Thanks.
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Re: Hand wapen
It is the Smith and Wesson. M and P stands for Military and police.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/Sm ... _01_md.jpg
There are a number of different models. That is the standard model
Link to the models http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/ ... 7781_image
http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/Sm ... _01_md.jpg
There are a number of different models. That is the standard model
Link to the models http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/ ... 7781_image
Last edited by FrankH on Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Hand wapen
Thank you Frank. Appreciate helping me to also understand.
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Re: Hand wapen
Grumpy, kry 'n 44 snubnose rollie. Jy skiet 'n tonnel so groot soos 'n treinlig deur iemand!
ek soek nog wapens...
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Re: Hand wapen
Hel, maar die goed se pryse is duur. As jy kyk die min yster wat jy gry teen die yster van n geweer en dan die pryse. Moet eerder n geweer koop, loop 2" sny, pistol grip op sit en siedaar!! Een groot kanon en doen n goeie job as jy skiet!!
Sal maar wag ek kyk wie gooi wat uit hulle kluis. Miskien sal daar n bargain uit kom!!
Wag net vir nog van die werk om te begin dan sal ek miskien later kyk na n Glock.
Sal maar wag ek kyk wie gooi wat uit hulle kluis. Miskien sal daar n bargain uit kom!!
Wag net vir nog van die werk om te begin dan sal ek miskien later kyk na n Glock.
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Re: Hand wapen
Daar is n Glock vir R5000 op guniste.Gen1.
Klein klein jakkalsies krap
En daai klein klein jakkalsies maak
Dat ek in my stoel rondkrioel
Is dit hoe n broek vol miere voel?
En daai klein klein jakkalsies maak
Dat ek in my stoel rondkrioel
Is dit hoe n broek vol miere voel?
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Re: Hand wapen
Ek wou hom koop, en het met die eienaar ook gepraat, volgens hom was die Glock nog nooit eers in 'n holster nie. Hy bly egter in Mosselbaai wat dit bietjie moeilik maak. Ek het toe maar vir my 'n nuwe Glock 19 GEN4 gekoop vir R7800.00G-force wrote:Daar is n Glock vir R5000 op guniste.Gen1.
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Re: Hand wapen
RAM Couriers bring wapens vir n billike prys.
Klein klein jakkalsies krap
En daai klein klein jakkalsies maak
Dat ek in my stoel rondkrioel
Is dit hoe n broek vol miere voel?
En daai klein klein jakkalsies maak
Dat ek in my stoel rondkrioel
Is dit hoe n broek vol miere voel?
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- grumpy
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Re: Hand wapen
Ek gaan die staal borsels weg steek!!!
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Steek daai staal borsels weg en laat daai jeuk jou oorneem. Koop 'n lekker handwapen!
ek soek nog wapens...
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Re: Hand wapen
Manne, maak kluis skoon en maak spasie. Laat weet wat het julle om te smous!