6x45

[bobby]

i'm looking to have a 6x45 rifle built up for my son and myself . i was thinking of getting a shot out 223 rifle and having it rebarreled to 6x 45 or buying a mini mauser action zastava and having it barreled .

first question is , who has theses actions in stock and what is the going rate of the action ?
does anyone here use this caliber and how do they work on game ?

should the zastava actions not be avalible what other actions who be recomended ?

my reason for wanting one is that i don't want the  boy  shooting my 308 cos it's too big for him and that some farmers don't want 222's to be used on game which is the only other centerfire rifle  i own .

kom praat maar ek luister

cheers bobby

[Francois Marais]

Bobby

Some interresting snippets I found about the 6/223........

http://www.huntnetwork.net/modules/wfsection/html/Ahthe%206%20X%2045Mm%20For%20Small%20Bushveld%20Game%20Perspectives.pdf

http://www.reloadbench.com/cartridges/w6x45mm.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6x45_mm

Keep well
Francois

[Danie Lombard .243]

Hi Bobby.

Give Kloppers a cal in Bloem on 051-400 5500 en ask for the fire arm dept. I think thet still have Zastava mini action avalible for a good price, brand new.

Nice little 6mm for moderate hunting distances. Low to no recoil. Just the thing for young hunters.

[bobby]

francois
good read thanks

danie
thanks for the imfo on action i'll give them a call tomorrow

cheers bobby

[bobby]

i've decided to just have my tikka lsa 222 rebarelled  to 6x45 to save myself from going completely mad with cfr's crap for a new licience  application . i'd like to know which barrel should i get and what rate of twist is best for this caliber . this rifle will be use for impala and springbok up to 200 m  so i recon a 100 gr bullet is best or am i wrong ?

how's the local barrel maker travelo's barrels ? has anyone had a 6x45 made by them and how does it shoot ?  any advice and ideas will be appriciated .

cheers bobby   

[Beretta]

Bobby
Bel vir Craig by mkonto arms  011 618 1909 hy ken van 6x45 hy maak ook sy eie lope ek kan getuig van sy
werk
Beretta

[Geno]

Bobby,
If I'm not mistaken, changing the 222 to 6x45 would still require you to apply for a new license due to the fact that you are going from a .224 to .243 barrel. If for instance it was something like a 458 win mag to 458 Lott, it's not such a hassle, because it's still a 458.

85 - 90gr bullets should work well for springbuck and impala.

Cheers,
Eugene

[Arnold]

Dit is nie so moeilik om goedkeuring te kry om dit te doen nie. Jy hoef ook nie aansoek te doen vir 'n nuwe lisensie nie.

[Armand Steenkamp]

Jis bobby

Wat van jy hou die 6mm loop maar jy laat sny net n 243 kamer.Dan kan jy hon download na 6x45 specs toe.Jy het dan n meer veelsydige geweer
somer net my 2c

Groete
Armand

[Nico Harris]

ek stem saam met armand!! die 243 min ladings is nie te ver van die 6x45 se maks ladings nie!!!

[Arnold]

Ek weet nie of 'n 243 op 'n 222 tikka se aksie gaan werk nie.

[Nico Harris]

daardie ombouing gan dieslefde prys wees as n nuwe howa...

[Armand Steenkamp]

Ja daaraan het ek nou nie gedink nie!

[bobby]

there's a saying ''i want it cos i want it ''  .
my reasons for just rebarreling are  : not too much drama as getting a new licience
                                                  the 6x45 is easier on a barrel than a 243
                                                  my existing rifle fits me really nice and not too big for my small son
                                                  the 6x45 is cheaper to run than a 243

yes arnold's right the tikka action will not accomadate a 243 due to the small bolt .

barreta
thanks for the leed i'll phone them tomorrow or so .

cheers bobby 

[Armand Steenkamp]

Bobby

Jy sam moet herlisensieer want die kaliber verander van .22 na 6mm toe.

Groete
Armand

[baboonstalker]

Armand,

Ek het pas 'n loopvervanging/ kaliberverandering in een gedoen. Die papierwerk is alles afgehandel en die korreksie aangebring. Dit het seker 'n maand gevat vir CFR om die goedkeuring te gee dat die werk gedoen word, en seker nog 'n maand om die korreksie op die lisensie aan te bring na die werk gedoen was en die geweer teruggekom het van SABS af.
Intussen l? my hernuwings steeds onaangeraak (+_ 2jaar) en my nuwe aansoeke ook onaangeraak (tussen 6 en 18 maande)

Party ouens s? dit neem slegs 3 maande vir nuwe aansoeke, maar dit is nie my ondervinding nie...

[bobby]

baboonstalker
what forms must i fill in for the process and must i motivate / make up lies again ?
thanks
bobby

[Arnold]

You fill in this SAPS 531 form, then you take it with the gun to your chosen gunsmith and he completes his part on the form.
Then you take it to your police station to complete their part ... (now listen carefully), you ask for the form back once they have completed it and courier it yourself to the CFR (if you want to save time).

Now wait for approval, once approval is granted you and your gunsmith should receive a fax stating such and on this fax it also have details on the rest of the procedure which is basically:
do the work
proof the rifle
complete the SAPS 521g form, give R70 to your police station together with your old license
wait for the new license to arive

[Nico Harris]

baboonstalker...my laaste lisensie het 5 weke gevat en ek het 4 ander wat almal minder as 3maande gevat het.

[bobby]

thanks arnold
harris het jy conections daar boe , hoe de hell kry jy dit reg ?

[tafjak]

Bobby

ere's a saying ''i want it cos i want it ''  .
my reasons for just rebarreling are  : not too much drama as getting a new licience
                                                  the 6x45 is easier on a barrel than a 243
                                                  my existing rifle fits me really nice and not too big for my small son
                                                  the 6x45 is cheaper to run than a 243

... o ja, alles is seker waar, maar daar kort nog ietsie of 2: Swaar op doppe en aksies. Maar as jy hom wil h?, dan wil jy hom h?. Sorg ook dat jy in die omgewing van 1in9 of even stywer twist kry. O! en amper vergeet ek die lekker ou dik doughnuts. Outside Neck reamer, inside neck reamer, goeie skaal(of anders raak aksies duur).

Koop sommer voorlaaier, skiet baie goedkoper en platter met meer energie.

[bobby]

tafjak
please explain in a bit more detail cos i thought that the 6x45 was a mild easy to load caliber . i really did not know it's prone to doughnut .
thanks 

[tafjak]

Bobby

'n Vriend van my(in Gouritz, Herbertsdale) het een. Was eers op Mini Musgrave aksie gewees en is nou op 2de Zastava(ook mini). Baie particular op 321(Gerard noem ook dat 335 vinnger brand as 321, maar sluk self swaar daaraan)) kruit en kan 'n 1/4 grein baie groot skade aan aksie veroorsaak. Hy(6x45) hou nie van ligter koe?ls as 100greiners nie. Die langer koe?ls sit weer die helfte van die dop vol en die sleep van die lang koe?ls veroorsaak baie brass flow en sodoende die dik doughnuts. Reamer keuse is van groot belang.

Om spoed in die 2100fps omgewing te kry is die druk hewig in die klein dop en veroorsaak weer baie kort leeftyd(skouers kraak lekker). Onthou dat die smal primer pocket meer druk kan vat as large primer en kom mens nie die werklike druk agter op die slot oopmaak en dop inspeksie nie.

Baie akkurate kaliber en het sy oorsprong van die bench rest-manne gekry, maar baie sorgvuldige herlaaier nodig en daarom die kort bench rest-lewe. Ek persoonlik sou die 222 re-barrel met 1in 7twist loop en 70 of even 80grein 22-koe?ls skiet. Hoekom ek dit sou doen is die lekker lang nek van die 222 wat nodig is vir swaar koe?ls en dat dit ook 'n baie akkurater kaliber as die 223-dop het.

Net my eie mening, want "as jy dit wil h?, wil jy dit h?" en gaan jy my in elk geval nie glo nie. Ek kan nie glo dat iemand wat so graag 'n 6x45 wil h?, nie iets beter en meer gebruiksvriendelik in die arsenaal van kalibers kan raakloop nie.Ou Gregor Woods was/is mos die groot kommentator vir die 6x45.

Ligloop

Tafjak

[tafjak]

Bobby en ander

Nog ietsie: Wonder wie het nou al 222 oorweeg bo 22-250 omdat dit goedkoper is om te herlaai, loop langer hou? Steek toggou julle hande op dat ek kan sien. Ek glo nogsteeds dat wat jy wil doodmaak onder gegewe omstandighede die kaliber bepaal.

[Arnold]

Baie interessant om die negatiewe van die 6X45 te hoor, ek het hierdie gladnie geweet nie en selfs oorweeg om eendag as ek grys is en dit reg gekry het om my 223 uit te skiet hom laat verander na 'n 6X45 ... nou sal ek maar net 'n vinigger twist loop laat opsit.