Howa 243 - watter koeëls werk regtig goed?

[joe rocket]

Dit klink regtig of n 243 toe nie so n moeilike herlaai-kaliber is nie!

Baie dankie vir al die terugvoer!

Ag wat Ds J, hulle se as n 243 skiet dan loop hy mooi en dan so op n dag begin hy met sy kilo alfa kilo.

[Eight]

Hoeveel ouens het sukses met Howa 1:10 twist en 103gr Eldx? Volgens berekening moet dit glad nie stabiliseer nie?

[Capt. Yoda]

Afhangind van hoe vinnig jy hom skiet en hoe ver bo seespiel jy is en self hoe warm dit op die dag is behoort hy te stabiliseer in n 1/10 twist maar jy gaan n % van jou BC verloor agv die feit dat jou SG waarde bq laer gaan wees. Vir my sal die groot probleem nie die stabilitiet wees nie maar eder die feit laat ek daai 103gr koel seker hier by 2800fps rond uit daai 24" Howa uit gaan skiet, vir daai ballistics het hulle n 308 ontewerp.

90gr Ballistic tip in daai roer is al wat jy nodig het, as jy mooi skiet waar jy mik is die 87gr dodelik maar daar is mos maar altyd n ou wat n Springbok op 190m met een op die blad gaan skiet

[Dale SH]

Afhangind van hoe vinnig jy hom skiet en hoe ver bo seespiel jy is en self hoe warm dit op die dag is behoort hy te stabiliseer in n 1/10 twist maar jy gaan n % van jou BC verloor agv die feit dat jou SG waarde bq laer gaan wees. Vir my sal die groot probleem nie die stabilitiet wees nie maar eder die feit laat ek daai 103gr koel seker hier by 2800fps rond uit daai 24" Howa uit gaan skiet, vir daai ballistics het hulle n 308 ontewerp.

90gr Ballistic tip in daai roer is al wat jy nodig het, as jy mooi skiet waar jy mik is die 87gr dodelik maar daar is mos maar altyd n ou wat n Springbok op 190m met een op die blad gaan skiet

Captain.
Maybe I misunderstood you, but why do you believe that a 103 grain ELD-X could only achieve 2800 fps from a 24 inch barrel ?

[Capt. Yoda]

Afhangind van hoe vinnig jy hom skiet en hoe ver bo seespiel jy is en self hoe warm dit op die dag is behoort hy te stabiliseer in n 1/10 twist maar jy gaan n % van jou BC verloor agv die feit dat jou SG waarde bq laer gaan wees. Vir my sal die groot probleem nie die stabilitiet wees nie maar eder die feit laat ek daai 103gr koel seker hier by 2800fps rond uit daai 24" Howa uit gaan skiet, vir daai ballistics het hulle n 308 ontewerp.

90gr Ballistic tip in daai roer is al wat jy nodig het, as jy mooi skiet waar jy mik is die 87gr dodelik maar daar is mos maar altyd n ou wat n Springbok op 190m met een op die blad gaan skiet

Captain.
Maybe I misunderstood you, but why do you believe that a 103 grain ELD-X could only achieve 2800 fps from a 24 inch barrel ?

Ja ek het seker te vinnig gepraat daar sonder om regtig aan die nuwe kruite te dink Dale, I havn't used a factory 243 in quite some time and you should be able to get around 2950fps with soemthing like VV N560? I just like a rife to have a purpose , talking about normal hunting conditions now a 24" 243 for me is either a bakkie gun or used for voor sit where you shoot springbok or blesbok and there I would prefer a 90 or 87gr bullet going nice and flat. If I wanted to shoot a heavy bullet id use a bigger caliber, obviously for a person that only has one rifle in say a 243 a heavier slower bullet could work in a different situation, ek het seker maar 11.1.11 gepraat

[Dale SH]

Thanks for your answer.
I just asked out of curiosity.
Reloder 26, Norma MRP and Viht 560 will push a 100 grain to 3000 fps and more from a 24 inch barrel.
It is academic though as a 103 grain bullet with the length of an ELD-X will not stabilize in a 1:10 twist, even at highveld altitude.
A conventional flat base 100 grain bullet like a Pro Amm or Pro Hunter is a different story.
It will stabilize even at coastal altitude.

[Chris (vdB)]

Ek herlaai nou nie, maar kan ook saam stem, die 100gr Pro Amm rak patrone skiet ook baie mooi in my Howa 243, en die jaar het ek met 100gr Ferderal Power-Shok netso lekker geskiet

[Bigfoot]

Looking for some advice.

I have always used 100gn Hornady Interlock in my 243 Musgrave with a 1/10 twist, lately been trying 90gn BT Noslers - not very good so far and yesterday bought Berger 87gn VLD Hunting, my question to those in the know, my experience with VLD target bullets is that they are extremely jump sensitive, is this the case with the Hunting bullet as well?

Any advice welcome, as using a whole box or more for load development can be expensive.

[tripodmvr]

Bigfoot, you are welcome to supply your data so that QL can give you an idea of the best charge. Once you have that, playing with the seating depth should get you going. You will save a lot of components.

[Lategan1]

Bigfoot,

Let the Quick Load guys help you on Jaracal. Do the effort and collect all the data they require. Will save you a lot of money, as simple as that.

The 87gr Interlock ‘s highly successful in my 1:10. I certainly experienced similar to you with the new high tech bullets vs old tech. Probably just the nature of the game. For perspective, probably the no. 1 reason why so many stick to Sierra bullets, user friendly!

There is also an argument to make in so far that the new type of bullets require you to use Quick Load, otherwise might loose half your barrel before you get to proper shooting!

Beste.

[Capt. Yoda]

Looking for some advice.

I have always used 100gn Hornady Interlock in my 243 Musgrave with a 1/10 twist, lately been trying 90gn BT Noslers - not very good so far and yesterday bought Berger 87gn VLD Hunting, my question to those in the know, my experience with VLD target bullets is that they are extremely jump sensitive, is this the case with the Hunting bullet as well?

Any advice welcome, as using a whole box or more for load development can be expensive.

Yes they are jump sensitive but I have had good results jumping them a long way

[Boomstomp]

Looking for some advice.

I have always used 100gn Hornady Interlock in my 243 Musgrave with a 1/10 twist, lately been trying 90gn BT Noslers - not very good so far and yesterday bought Berger 87gn VLD Hunting, my question to those in the know, my experience with VLD target bullets is that they are extremely jump sensitive, is this the case with the Hunting bullet as well?

Any advice welcome, as using a whole box or more for load development can be expensive.

Berger's website has an article that sets out how you should test seating depth for these VLD bullets. Easy to do with a few test groups.

In my own Musgrave .243W, they are somewhat sensitive to jump. My current jump is fairly large so no need to try and chase the lands.

[Bigfoot]

Thanks Guys

will compile my data and submit