QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
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QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
Middag manne,
Kan iemand my dalk help met n QL lading,
Hieronder volg die gegewens:
Looplenge 24duim/610mm
Spoed 3002
Punt 130g nossler BT
Dopvolume 71,37gr
Kruit S365
Primer CCI200
COL 84,90mm
Doplengte 64,10
Dankbaar vir die hulp manne.
Kan iemand my dalk help met n QL lading,
Hieronder volg die gegewens:
Looplenge 24duim/610mm
Spoed 3002
Punt 130g nossler BT
Dopvolume 71,37gr
Kruit S365
Primer CCI200
COL 84,90mm
Doplengte 64,10
Dankbaar vir die hulp manne.
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Re: QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
Hoeveel kruit gee daai spoed. Ek voorspel jy gaan heelwat moet afkom na so 2960 rond
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Re: QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
52,2gr jammer, vergeet om dit te noem.
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Re: QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
Normal chrony or magnetospeed/labradar ?
Is that one of those hot batches of S365 ?
Is that one of those hot batches of S365 ?
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Re: QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
Normale Chrony gewees, ek is nie seker van die lotnommer nie, jammer.
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Depending on how your burn rate drops off I would recommend 50.5 grains for 2930 to 2940 fps - 15 fps on the chrony at 5 meters.
I would be interested to know what batch this is. I would take a guess at Lot 81, 83 etc
This batch is literally burning like S355 in your rifle.
I would be interested to know what batch this is. I would take a guess at Lot 81, 83 etc
This batch is literally burning like S355 in your rifle.
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What does the burn rate read according to the parameters i gave?
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Re: QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
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The 270 is overbore and does throttle chamber pressure/up the BRF, especially with the batches of S365 which show a positive deviation.
I have two friends whose 270's do exactly the same thing as yours.
The trick is use the slowest batch of S365 available or in my friends case I use S385
The 270 is overbore and does throttle chamber pressure/up the BRF, especially with the batches of S365 which show a positive deviation.
I have two friends whose 270's do exactly the same thing as yours.
The trick is use the slowest batch of S365 available or in my friends case I use S385
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Re: QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
I have absolutely know idea what some of these abbreviations mean..
BRF?
This rifle does shoot a good grouping currently, will share a picture, but yes....i want to see what QL says
BRF?
This rifle does shoot a good grouping currently, will share a picture, but yes....i want to see what QL says
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Re: QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
BRF = Burn rate factor.
In simplistic terms what it means is that with your current batch of powder your pressure curve is too quick and PMax is reached too quickly.
Now you have the bullet entering the barrel and a large volume of gas trying to escape through a relatively small bore and basically has nowhere to go, so the gas pressure cant escape quick enough and stays behind in the case/chamber.
The nett result is that the bullet has exited the barrel faster than normal so your optimal barrel time is reached faster than normal and this brings your node speed down because the remaining gases are not creating continuous momentum to gradually accelerate the bullet through the barrel.
In your case S385 would work better in terms of achieving a higher node speed and potentially less pressure for a better node speed.
You would also achieve better case fill with S385.
Your current load is predicted to be a +- 56000 psi and your case fill is low at approx 87%
In simplistic terms what it means is that with your current batch of powder your pressure curve is too quick and PMax is reached too quickly.
Now you have the bullet entering the barrel and a large volume of gas trying to escape through a relatively small bore and basically has nowhere to go, so the gas pressure cant escape quick enough and stays behind in the case/chamber.
The nett result is that the bullet has exited the barrel faster than normal so your optimal barrel time is reached faster than normal and this brings your node speed down because the remaining gases are not creating continuous momentum to gradually accelerate the bullet through the barrel.
In your case S385 would work better in terms of achieving a higher node speed and potentially less pressure for a better node speed.
You would also achieve better case fill with S385.
Your current load is predicted to be a +- 56000 psi and your case fill is low at approx 87%
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Re: QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
Ek vra juis omdat die data n duim groeppering op n 100skiet maar dit lyk volgens die terugvoering of die lading te warm is/vinnig is?
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Re: QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
Die lotnommer is op 'n plakker op die bodem van die blik. As dit nog daar is gee net al die syfers wat voorkom of plaas n foto.
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Re: QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
Carl, ek wil jou nie aanvat nie. Hier is seker 4 manne wat jou al gehelp het met QL ladings. Self ek het my hulp aangebied.Steyr270 wrote:Ek vra juis omdat die data n duim groeppering op n 100skiet maar dit lyk volgens die terugvoering of die lading te warm is/vinnig is?
Jy vra, maar jy hardloop elke keer na iemand anders toe nadat een man jou gehelp het. Jy gaan nêrens kom met die dat jy nie wil hoor en luister as die manne jou wil help nie. Jy gaan maak dat niemand jou meer wil help nie.
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Re: QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
Heinz, dit is nie my geweer en lading hierdie nie...
Maak eers seker van jou feite voordat jy net aanneem dit is my wapen wat onder bespreking is...
Maak eers seker van jou feite voordat jy net aanneem dit is my wapen wat onder bespreking is...
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tripodmvr wrote:Die lotnommer is op 'n plakker op die bodem van die blik. As dit nog daar is gee net al die syfers wat voorkom of plaas n foto.
Maak so, dankie vir die hulp.
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Bly by Jurgen. Hy kan jou help, want hy het nou al die data. Dit maak dit net soveel makliker vir jou ook.Steyr270 wrote:Heinz, dit is nie my geweer en lading hierdie nie...
Maak eers seker van jou feite voordat jy net aanneem dit is my wapen wat onder bespreking is...
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Re: QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
Regso Heinz,Heinz Petersen wrote:Bly by Jurgen. Hy kan jou help, want hy het nou al die data. Dit maak dit net soveel makliker vir jou ook.Steyr270 wrote:Heinz, dit is nie my geweer en lading hierdie nie...
Maak eers seker van jou feite voordat jy net aanneem dit is my wapen wat onder bespreking is...
Ek was nog altyd net by Jurgen en win maar info in soos ek aangaan.
Jurgen het my mooi gehelp en my wapen skiet 100%. (hy het selfs n blik S365 vir sy moeite gekry)
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Re: QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
O so ek en Ruaan het jou nie gehelp nie????Steyr270 wrote:Regso Heinz,Heinz Petersen wrote:Bly by Jurgen. Hy kan jou help, want hy het nou al die data. Dit maak dit net soveel makliker vir jou ook.Steyr270 wrote:Heinz, dit is nie my geweer en lading hierdie nie...
Maak eers seker van jou feite voordat jy net aanneem dit is my wapen wat onder bespreking is...
Ek was nog altyd net by Jurgen en win maar info in soos ek aangaan.
Jurgen het my mooi gehelp en my wapen skiet 100%. (hy het selfs n blik S365 vir sy moeite gekry)
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Ek win info by julle in, maar Jurg is my 'go to man'. 
Ek steel met my oe en ore
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QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
Help my gou reg.
Gestel nou n geweer, veral n jaggeweer met gemiddelde vermoë soos n Steyr, Sauer, M98 Mauser kloon, ensovoorts skiet akkuraat (1 tot 1&1/2” op 100m), sonder druk probleme en met n veilige lading bevestig op n chronograaf.
Wat is dan die doel van n span magiese syfers op n rekenaar skerm soos uitgewerk op Quickload, anders as om tyd, geld en komponente te mors, en meer belangrik om jou deurmekaar te maak en jou selfvertroue te rattle nie.
Ek ken tans nie een kompeterende F- klas, Bisley, langafstand, Benchrest of langafstand skut wat slaafs laai volgens QL nie. In teendeel blyk dit of die gemiddelde jagter met n hout kolf, dunloop geweer hierdeur bedwelm is, en vir sy lewe vrees om n skoot af te trek sonder QL se goedkeuring.
Die probleem is ook nie nuut nie. Lees gerus wat Jack O’Connor voor sy dood hieroor gesê het meer as 40 jaar terug.
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Gestel nou n geweer, veral n jaggeweer met gemiddelde vermoë soos n Steyr, Sauer, M98 Mauser kloon, ensovoorts skiet akkuraat (1 tot 1&1/2” op 100m), sonder druk probleme en met n veilige lading bevestig op n chronograaf.
Wat is dan die doel van n span magiese syfers op n rekenaar skerm soos uitgewerk op Quickload, anders as om tyd, geld en komponente te mors, en meer belangrik om jou deurmekaar te maak en jou selfvertroue te rattle nie.
Ek ken tans nie een kompeterende F- klas, Bisley, langafstand, Benchrest of langafstand skut wat slaafs laai volgens QL nie. In teendeel blyk dit of die gemiddelde jagter met n hout kolf, dunloop geweer hierdeur bedwelm is, en vir sy lewe vrees om n skoot af te trek sonder QL se goedkeuring.
Die probleem is ook nie nuut nie. Lees gerus wat Jack O’Connor voor sy dood hieroor gesê het meer as 40 jaar terug.
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Re: QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
So Ruaan geen quickload lading vir jou gedoen nie.Steyr270 wrote:Ek win info by julle in, maar Jurg is my 'go to man'.
Ek steel met my oe en ore
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Re: QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
Ruaan het, ek het dit vergelyk met wat Jurgen vir my gegee het.
Dankie aan almal, klink asof ek nie almal hier kan gelukkig hou nie...
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Re: QL Lading vir 270 asseblief
Alweer die Steyr mannietjie
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Pappabeer wrote:Help my gou reg.
Gestel nou n geweer, veral n jaggeweer met gemiddelde vermoë soos n Steyr, Sauer, M98 Mauser kloon, ensovoorts skiet akkuraat (1 tot 1&1/2” op 100m), sonder druk probleme en met n veilige lading bevestig op n chronograaf.
Wat is dan die doel van n span magiese syfers op n rekenaar skerm soos uitgewerk op Quickload, anders as om tyd, geld en komponente te mors, en meer belangrik om jou deurmekaar te maak en jou selfvertroue te rattle nie.
Ek ken tans nie een kompeterende F- klas, Bisley, langafstand, Benchrest of langafstand skut wat slaafs laai volgens QL nie. In teendeel blyk dit of die gemiddelde jagter met n hout kolf, dunloop geweer hierdeur bedwelm is, en vir sy lewe vrees om n skoot af te trek sonder QL se goedkeuring.
Die probleem is ook nie nuut nie. Lees gerus wat Jack O’Connor voor sy dood hieroor gesê het meer as 40 jaar terug.
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Goeie vraag, vra vir die slim manne
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