herlaai .223

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More.

ek is opsoek na laai data vir .223. Het Hornady 75gr A-max punte gekoop en gebruik Somchem S321. Het altyd op Somchem se Tuis blad informasie gekry maar lyk my hulle het dit gestop. Dis die eerste keer wat ek so swaar punt gaan gebruik.

enige hulp sal baie wardeer word

Jaques

[Francois Marais]

Nog n JB

Hoop die man wat daardie punte aan jou verskaf het, het jou meegedeel dat jou loop n spesiale twist moet he om daardie swaar punte te skiet, 1-7.5/8" anders gaan hulle nie stabiliseer nie.

Lading het ek ongelukkig nie, maar hier behoort 223 manne oppi forum te wees wat jou sal kan help, of ten minste n aanbeveling , maak.....

Mooi loop
Francois

[buttonjp]

dankie vir die inligting. Het by Camdix gekoop en hy het my van NIKS ingelig nie. is Maar nuut op die herlaai van ammo. jag die afgelope 9 jaar maar met fabriek ammo (55gr) En wat ek self laai. Skiet van duikers tot kudu met dit waar die boere my toelaat.  Sover het ek nog nie probleme opgetel nie.

[whisper]

Groete Button, is daar n spesiale rede hoekom jy n 75 grein punt wil skiet, of is dit net iets nuuts wat jy will probeer?

Pretty walk.

Whisper.

[JACQUES BOTHA]

FM
eK GAAN KYK VIR DAAI 1 IN 8 TWIST,
EK WEET NET NIE MOOI OF JY DIE SPOED GAAN KRY OM DIE PERFORMANCE TE REGVERDIG NIE.
ONTHOPU DIS EERS MET SPOED WAT DAAI PUNTJIE(KOELTJIE BEGION PERFORM) N MAN SAL MAAR SY TURBO MOET AANSIT ANDERS GAAN JY MET DIOESELFDE PROBLEEM AS 308 SIT  EN JY SAL MOET WOEL MET N GRADEBOOG AS JY N 75 OP N 223 WIL SKIET..
MAAR AS HY WERK WERK HY
GROETE
jACQUES bOTHA

[whisper]

Compliments of Snipers Nest


Back in the early days of sniper development and use for the law enforcement community the 223 Rem was fairly popular because of the fear of over penetration from the 308 Win as well as some other concerns and considerations. But as the limitations of the cartridge itself started to become known though documented engagements and other ballistic evaluations, the 223 lost favor as a sniper round. There are still cases where the .223 is used but it tends to be more as a complementary cartridge and and secondary rifle instead of being used in place of a .308 or other cartridge. The small and fragile .223 bullets, not including FMJ bullets found in most military ammunition, generally splinter on impact allowing almost no excess penetration that could possibly hit innocents, such as hostages. But with this fragmentation and lack of penetration comes a necessity for more precise shot placement and concern for insufficient penetration, leaving almost no room for error. The .223 has a small temporary wound channel (Stretch cavity), requiring almost a direct hit on the spinal stem in order to get "lights out" on a target. The lighter .223 bullet, with its low ballistic coefficient, is very susceptible to the effects of wind and loses velocity fast, which really limits its long range potential. While it is possible to achieve acceptable accuracy at 600 meters on a calm day, it is too risky on the windy days to really consider this round for military sniping purposes. Due to the lack of penetration and lack of energy, the .223 should only be used in very rare circumstances and only on head shots. There is more then one instance when a target has been shot with a perfectly placed center mass shot, and it failed to incapacitate the target. The very heavy .223 bullets (75gr +) are becoming more popular in long range shooting, but the special barrels and rifles required to shoot these high BC bullets are not available as standard sniper rifles to everyday snipers.

On the military side, the small FMJ bullets of the 223/5.56 have had their share of problems in terms of lethality. The small bullets in a full metal jacket have shown to have a tendency to pass right through their targets without doing much damage or tendency all of their energy to the target. As such the .223 has not garnered much support as a sniping caliber. But where the .223 has been fairly popular is with the Designated Marksman or Squad Advanced Marksman. These rifles tend to be similar in the standard issue battle rifles and as such the 223 is a good choice.

Note: In order to stabilize the 69-gr. Bullets and heavier, the twist on the rifle barrel needs to be at least 1:8", if you are going with 75 - 80 gr bullets you will even need a faster rate of twist such as 1:7"

Recommendation: only use the .223 within fairly short range, 100-300 meters and only take head shots if at all possible. If the .223 is all that your unit has in the way of a sniper rifle, be sure to keep in mind the limitations of the round and choose your ammunition carefully.

I will ask Harris 30-06 for the Varget - Somchem conversion for powder, and then you can work up some loads...........

Whisper.

[buttonjp]

Hi Ouens

dankie vir die info sover. Dit is maar net iets wat ek wil probeer. soos ek genoem het skiet ek al die jare met 55gr. afstand wissel so tussen 80m en omenby 350m. so ek wil maar net bietjie rondspeel.

[suid wes]

Ek moed se,jul ouens op die forum is wragtag heel wat meer behulpsaam en wil amper se wakkerder as somige ander forums.Dankie daar voor.Lekker dag vir julle van uit n nat namibia.

[buttonjp]

hoop die reen doen julle goed daar bo. was laas jaar in grootfontein by famielie. was maar aan die droe kant.

het info van denel af gekry maar wil net seker maak by almal of dit reg klink.

For the 75gr V-Max
Propellant;                    S321
Start load:                    22.0gr
Maximum load:              24.0gr

het nie 'n Chronograph om die spoed na te gaan nie, so is nie seker nie.

[buttonjp]

hier is wat ek in grootfontein geskiet het laas jaar

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kudu met 308 180gr geskiet 53" horings. sowat 110kg uitgeslag.
eland met 375 270gr geskiet. net oor die 300 uitgeslag. het net meer as 7 ure geloop vir hom. ne na 4 die middig geskiet en nie gou weer nie. daar was meer  wag 'n bietjie bossie dorings in my as wat in die hele bledie veld was.

[whisper]

Button, as hulle so se, is dit seker reg (?) Ek laai my .223 24.5gr S321 met n 55gr so ek weet nie ou boet? Probeer maar 21 gr S321 en sien wat gebeur. Het jy al uitgevind wat se loop het jy? (twist)

Whisper.

[Hein M.]

FM
eK GAAN KYK VIR DAAI 1 IN 8 TWIST,
EK WEET NET NIE MOOI OF JY DIE SPOED GAAN KRY OM DIE PERFORMANCE TE REGVERDIG NIE.
ONTHOPU DIS EERS MET SPOED WAT DAAI PUNTJIE(KOELTJIE BEGION PERFORM) N MAN SAL MAAR SY TURBO MOET AANSIT ANDERS GAAN JY MET DIOESELFDE PROBLEEM AS 308 SIT  EN JY SAL MOET WOEL MET N GRADEBOOG AS JY N 75 OP N 223 WIL SKIET..
MAAR AS HY WERK WERK HY
GROETE
jACQUES bOTHA

Stem saam.  Die .223-kaliber -in 'n gewone jaggeweer- soek maar die 55gr. (of in daardie omgewing gewig) koeels om optimaal te preform. 

Vat maar daardie punte terug en ruil dit om vir 55 greiners.  Dink jy mors dalk jou tyd met die swaar punte...  Is jy seker dit is .224cal. punte?

Groetnis!

Hein M

[Francois Marais]

JB

Daai goete gaan beter werk in die 22-250, soos ons laas gepraat het....ek dink n 223 is bietjie dun en min vir n 75gr koeel......

my 2c......

Mooi loop
Francois

[whisper]

Oom Francois +1, ek het gisteraand gesit en dink, ek sal baie "nervous" wees om daai punte deur my .223 te stoot. Hulle doen dit wel in die VSA, maar dit lyk vir my hulle skiet swaar loop AR-15's ? Ek net nie een artike/post gekry vir n "gewone" roer wat hulle skiet. Button as jy hom gaan probeer, vat maar stadig ou boet asseblief wees net versigtig.

Whisper.

[Beyers]

Twist bepaal watter punte sal werk:

  .224 CF                          8"        For bullets heavier than 70 gr.

                                      9" For bullets up to 70 gr.

                                      12" For bullets up to 63 gr.

                                      14" For bullets up to 55 gr.

                                      15"*    For bullets up to 55 gr. driven 4,100 fps or more

                                      16"*    For bullets up to 55 gr. driven 4,300 fps or more

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middig aan almal

het nie naweek toe reg gekom. 75gr gaan toe nou nie werk vir my nie. soos almal my ingelig het. ek het 'n 1-12 twist. .
het toe omgeruil vir 55gr sierra boattail's. en sommer al 200 gelaai en reg vir die seisoen

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is daar dalk iemand hier naby wat toelaat om jakkalse op hulle plaase te skiet. stel nogal reedelik belang om so 1 of 2 te skiet

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dit wil se johannesburg omgewing