Zeiss Duralyt vs Vortex Viper

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Ek skiet huidiglik met die Zeiss 4-12x50, maar hoor goeie goed van die Vortex. Hoe vergelyk hierdie twee scopes met mekaar, veral op beeld kwaliteit en "tracking"?

Ek kyk na die Vortex Viper 6.5-20x50 om bietjie meer vergroting te kry vir baan skiet. Sal julle hom aanbeveel of eerder iets soos die HD5?

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HD5!
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Pinkes wrote:HD5!
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vir R4000 minder die Vortex
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JR68 ek weet nie waar jy jou inligting kry nie, maar die Vortex Viper 6.5 - 20 x50 kan ek nou gaan koop vir R7000 met die mildot ret. Hy is baie gewild onder die jaggeweer skieters hier in die wes-Kaap en die manne kan nie ophou goed praat oor hom nie. Jy dink seker aan die Pst?
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Stadig manne, Vortex moet nog so 'n bietjie van 'n pad stap!
Zeiss Duralyt is in 'n ander klas!
Vortex Viper word as 'n OEM produk in die Phillipyne vir Vortex gemaak en die Zeiss Duralyt in hulle eie fabriek in Duitsland.

Vergelyk eerder die Vortex met produkte soos die Nikon Monarch Reeks, Bushnell Elite en Burris Fullfields wat ook in dieselfde fabriek in die Phillipyne as Vortex gemaak word.

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Die vortex kos R 7950 (6.5x20x50) en die zeiss kos +- r12500. Dit is hoekom ek gese het vir r4000 minder vat ek die Vortex
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Soos die manner se, Zeiss is def in n ander klas!

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Die Zeiss moet eerder met die Vortex Razor vergelyk word. Ek het al my stel afgetrap met Nikon Monarchs! Al word hulle in dieselfde land aanmekaar gesit, is die Vortex in n ander klas!
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Louis,

Is dit persoonlike keuse of waarop grond jy jou stellling dat Vortex in 'n ander klas is as die Nikon Monarch?

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Tasco watter ander keuses is daar? Ek het beide gehad. My Nikon aan oom PWV verkoop. Twee ander vriende het ook probleme gehad. So pas n Vortex Viper HS gekoop en het vrek baie navorsing gedoen voor ek gekoop het.



Een van my lekkerste scopes was n Tasco 3-12x40 wat in Japan gemaak is. Het hom later weggegee vir n pel wat een gekort het.

"Of the two I would choose the vortex."
"I had a monarch with the BDC IN 5X20X44and I took it off and put a 4x16x50 viper in place of the Monarch, the BDC was too bold for use and the circles were much too big even for coyote hunting. RCM"
"I bought a 4-16 Monarch. Looking back now and after shooting a rifle with a comparable Vortex I honestly wish I would have went with the Vortex. Not saying that the Monarch is a bad scope, but I was really impressed with the Vortex I used. Might just be my eyes but I thought the vortex was crisper."

http://www.sniperforums.com/forum/optic ... viper.html

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/fo ... er=2447269
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Dankie vir almal se menings. Ek is self ook 'n groot Zeiss voorstaander, ek besit alreeds twee Duralyts! My vraag moes gewees het, is die HD5 R4000 beter in alle opsigte as die Vortex?

D.w.s optics, turrets, kruishaar, betroubaarheid en waarborg.

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Die vortex is nie n HD5,maar in die R8000 prys klas is daar min wat hom gaan klop.Soos die man by safari se"jy koop n R8 produk vir R5,baie goeie waarde vir geld"
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Naand manne.

Lekker aktuele gesprek waarmee julle besig is. Net so n paar opmerkings. Vortex is die laaste paar jaar die "Flavour of the month" onder die Amerikaners vir enige baan/taktiese skiet aanwending. Ek verstaan(en ek mag verkeerd wees) dat enige scope( Swarovski, Schmidt und Bender, Zeis ens ens ens) wat uit die Europese unie kom, slegs n 10 jaar waarborg het, agv van die Eeuropese unie se uitvoer voorwaardes.

As n trotse eienaar van 2 Swarovskis moet ek dus erken dat, enige scope soos n: Nikon, Lynx, Vortex Leupoldt, Tasco Bushnell ens ens ens, met n lewenslange waarborg, of 15 jaar waarborge, se waarborge is beter as die top 3 Europese scopes se waarborge. Bloot asg van beperkende invoer wetgewing vanuit Europa?

Ek skiet ook met n Vortex viper6.5-20x50, sekerlik een van die helderste scopes waardeur ek nog gekyk het. Vir dag jag en baan skiet is die fyn kruishaar bloot idiaal. Die scope is uiters betroubaar en kan gebruik word om te dail en te zero. Persoonlik sal ek graag nog n Zeiss wil besit. Wat my net pla van die Zeiss Duralyt,is die manier waarop die scope destyds bekend gestel is. Zeiss het dit aanvanklik as hul "budget" reeks bekend gestel.

So n stelling laat my altyd dink daaraan dat n goeie produk aspris swakker gemaak word. En ek is nie alleen nie. Die gesaghebbende tydskrif "Guns and Ammo" het destyds, die vraag gevra: " Are Zeiss telling the shooter community, that they are selling an inferior product on purpose, for the simple fact of turnover, and the customer bragging rights of owning a Zeiss product ?" ( terloops Guns and Ammo se sirkulasie syfer is meer as wat daar blankes in SA is). Vandag, na n paar jaar se se blootstelling aan die nuwe Zeiss, weet ons daar is geen vraagteken oor hul nuwe produk nie.

Ek wil die stelling maak dat die verskil in prys tussen n Vortex Viper en n Zeiss Duralyte, toe te skryf is aan die land waarvan dit ingevoer word. Maw die verskil in prys = invoer kostes en nie kwalitiet nie.
Ek jag miskien te veel, maar dit is nogsteeds nie genoeg nie!
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Dankie James,baie intressant.Watse se reticle gebruik jy .die Bdc of milldot.
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V-plex

Natuurlik weet ons vandag dat die Terra eerder die budget reeks is van Zeiss.
Ek jag miskien te veel, maar dit is nogsteeds nie genoeg nie!
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James,

"Flavour of the month" is 'n baie goeie beskrywing!
Byvoorbeeld, dit is al wat Safari nou aan jou probeer verkoop en nie lank terug nie was dit net Nikon's.
Jy vra vir 'n spesifieke vervaardiger se teleskoop, dan probeer hulle 'n Vortex aan jou verkoop.
Dit hang maar baie van die verkoopsman agter die toonbank af en wat hy aangesê of gevra word om te "push".

Die "flavour of the month" sal weer verander en tot dan toe is Vortex seker bo aan die lys.
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Tasco, ek stem 100% saam met jou!!

Dis ook hoekom Nightforce so "populer" is
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Die Nightforce "hipe" wil ek nie eers oor praat nie, want totaal "over priced".
I rest my case!

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[quote="TASCO"]Die Nightforce "hipe" wil ek nie eers oor praat nie, want totaal "over priced".
I rest my case!

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Ek wil dam vir Nightforce baie geluk se met sy 1ste, 2de, 3de, 4de, 5de, 6de en 7de plek by vandag se Kaapjag CHASA baanskiet. Mooi Nightforce.
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Ek is van die mening dat ons kan nie twyfel oor die kwaliteit van zeis maar , dat die viper kom naby genoeg om die die jagter en papier skiet persoon tevrede te stel.
Die gevolg is dat hoekom moet ons meer betaal vir n zeis as ons dieselfde werkverrigting kan kry uit n vortex.
Se tog vir my hoekom jy sukkel om n keuse te maak.

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immelmanw wrote:
TASCO wrote:Die Nightforce "hipe" wil ek nie eers oor praat nie, want totaal "over priced".
I rest my case!

Gee wel vir Safari krediet, hulle bemarking is goed!
As Willem 'n ding wil "boost" kry hy dit

Ek wil dam vir Nightforce baie geluk se met sy 1ste, 2de, 3de, 4de, 5de, 6de en 7de plek by vandag se Kaapjag CHASA baanskiet. Mooi Nightforce.
Kyk baie items se "hype" is kunsmatig of bemarking gedrewe. Nightforce se hype, is egter gebruiker resultate gedrewe.
Ek jag miskien te veel, maar dit is nogsteeds nie genoeg nie!
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James Wilson wrote:
immelmanw wrote:
TASCO wrote:Die Nightforce "hipe" wil ek nie eers oor praat nie, want totaal "over priced".
I rest my case!

Gee wel vir Safari krediet, hulle bemarking is goed!
As Willem 'n ding wil "boost" kry hy dit

Ek wil dam vir Nightforce baie geluk se met sy 1ste, 2de, 3de, 4de, 5de, 6de en 7de plek by vandag se Kaapjag CHASA baanskiet. Mooi Nightforce.
Kyk baie items se "hype" is kunsmatig of bemarking gedrewe. Nightforce se hype, is egter gebruiker resultate gedrewe.
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Dankie Willem. Ek stel voor ons hou by die onderwerp. Nightforce is in 'n klas van sy eie en hoort nie by by hierdie besprekingspunt nie.
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