TacDriver Intro
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TacDriver Intro
Hey Guys
This is our new TacDriver profile for all information regarding the new TacDriver Practical / Tactical Long Range competition series.
We'll be doing a full post a bit later with info for our inaugural Steel Storm 2015 competition to be held in Touws Rivier from the 18th to 20th of September.
Get hold of us via this handle for all things TacDriver related.
Cheers from;
dAyLiTe
This is our new TacDriver profile for all information regarding the new TacDriver Practical / Tactical Long Range competition series.
We'll be doing a full post a bit later with info for our inaugural Steel Storm 2015 competition to be held in Touws Rivier from the 18th to 20th of September.
Get hold of us via this handle for all things TacDriver related.
Cheers from;
dAyLiTe
Practical / Tactical Long Range Shooting Competition & Training
website: www.tacdriver.co.za
email: sendit@tacdriver.co.za
website: www.tacdriver.co.za
email: sendit@tacdriver.co.za
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Re: TacDriver Intro
Welcome Rob.
Great idea to start Practical shoots in SA.
One thing though, the 3000fps limit puts all my rifles out of the running...
Why the velocity limit?
Cheers
Eugene
Great idea to start Practical shoots in SA.
One thing though, the 3000fps limit puts all my rifles out of the running...
Why the velocity limit?
Cheers
Eugene
Goed, beter, 6millimeter!
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Re: TacDriver Intro
Hey Eugene
Yaslikit... what are you sending over 3000fps, and at what velocities ?
Cheers
Rob
Yaslikit... what are you sending over 3000fps, and at what velocities ?
Cheers
Rob
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Re: TacDriver Intro
6mmDasher
55gr Nosler BT - 4000fps
65gr V-Max - 3750fps
75gr V-Max - 3560fps
.204Ruger - 32gr @ 3950fps
.25-06
100gr Swift Scirocco - 3340fps
85gr GSC HV - 3750fps
55gr Nosler BT - 4000fps
65gr V-Max - 3750fps
75gr V-Max - 3560fps
.204Ruger - 32gr @ 3950fps
.25-06
100gr Swift Scirocco - 3340fps
85gr GSC HV - 3750fps
Goed, beter, 6millimeter!
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Re: TacDriver Intro
hmmmm.... perhaps think of loading that 6mm up with a 105gr Berger Hybrid.
It'll pull you nicely back to closer to 3000fps and it's pretty much the top bullet used in the USA for this type of competition.
It'll pull you nicely back to closer to 3000fps and it's pretty much the top bullet used in the USA for this type of competition.
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Re: TacDriver Intro
If I had a 1:8" barrel, yes.
But it's a varmint gun built on a tactical platform with a 1:12 tube...
What's the reason for the 3000fps limit?
But it's a varmint gun built on a tactical platform with a 1:12 tube...
What's the reason for the 3000fps limit?
Goed, beter, 6millimeter!
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Re: TacDriver Intro
It's basically to reduce damage to the targets that are positioned at 150m (the tricky, unsupported 'should be easy to hit' ones)Geno wrote:What's the reason for the 3000fps limit?
...and 120 targets are not cheap.
We're following the 'Competition-Dynamics' and 'Precision Rifle Series' rules, as we're in the process of affiliating with them, and it's part of their rules too for the same reasons. If we get it right, then SA shooters can earn US points to compete in the US/World Champs.
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Re: TacDriver Intro
Makes sense. Thanks!
More reason to get the dedicated LR gun built then!
More reason to get the dedicated LR gun built then!
Goed, beter, 6millimeter!
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Re: TacDriver Intro
I've put the full invitation post up in the 'Long Range Shooting and Hunting' section.
Hope it's in the right place...
Hope it's in the right place...
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Re: TacDriver Intro
Hi Rob,
Nice to see you have gotton this of the ground. I wish you all the best with this venture.
Just a question, Would a 338LM loaded with a 250gn bullet at around 2900fps not be doing Much more damage than 6mm bullet at 3700fps at 150m to the target?
Regards
Jan
Nice to see you have gotton this of the ground. I wish you all the best with this venture.
Just a question, Would a 338LM loaded with a 250gn bullet at around 2900fps not be doing Much more damage than 6mm bullet at 3700fps at 150m to the target?
Regards
Jan
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Hi Jan
With all the research that we have done on the subject, it seems that speed is the killer, not energy as such.
... it might have more to do with the tensity of malleable solids at velocity, and around 3000fps is the magic number.
Would be great if you do find out more info and can share it with us.
Cheers
Rob
With all the research that we have done on the subject, it seems that speed is the killer, not energy as such.
... it might have more to do with the tensity of malleable solids at velocity, and around 3000fps is the magic number.
Would be great if you do find out more info and can share it with us.
Cheers
Rob
Practical / Tactical Long Range Shooting Competition & Training
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email: sendit@tacdriver.co.za
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Re: TacDriver Intro
Welkom welkom.
Gaan die tipe skiet langswyd aangebied word???
Gaan die tipe skiet langswyd aangebied word???
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Re: TacDriver Intro
Yip, targets and stands are mobile, so we can setup anywhere in SA.
We're looking for venue's in Gauteng and Pietermaritzburg area.
...need hilly/mountainous terrain with backstops out to 1km.
The Touws Rivier Practical range has 180 degrees of shooting out to 1km, and the Tactical range is 200m wide out to 2km (we're only using the first 800m though).
Let us know if you might have a venue.. or 2 adjacent farms could work.
We're looking for venue's in Gauteng and Pietermaritzburg area.
...need hilly/mountainous terrain with backstops out to 1km.
The Touws Rivier Practical range has 180 degrees of shooting out to 1km, and the Tactical range is 200m wide out to 2km (we're only using the first 800m though).
Let us know if you might have a venue.. or 2 adjacent farms could work.
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email: sendit@tacdriver.co.za
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Re: TacDriver Intro
Thx Rob,
Shooting my 25-06 at steel gongs with 115gn Bergers at 3260fps ave. it has far less damage than friends 300wm with 185 bergers at 300m for instance. Maybe it depends on the steel used also possible that at the closer distances the speed is still such that it reacts differently? I am not one for shooting gongs at closer that 300m distances on a straight range though. I will be giving the 338LM a go soon (still have not shot it) and see what it does compared to the 25-06 which is unfortunately the fastest calibre I can compare to.
Regards
Jan
Shooting my 25-06 at steel gongs with 115gn Bergers at 3260fps ave. it has far less damage than friends 300wm with 185 bergers at 300m for instance. Maybe it depends on the steel used also possible that at the closer distances the speed is still such that it reacts differently? I am not one for shooting gongs at closer that 300m distances on a straight range though. I will be giving the 338LM a go soon (still have not shot it) and see what it does compared to the 25-06 which is unfortunately the fastest calibre I can compare to.
Regards
Jan
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Re: TacDriver Intro
I don't think a 338 will feature in this comp. Apart from recoil fatigue you would need to have deep pockets to feed the beast.
We discussed the 338's recoil on Saturday and one shooter left his 338 LM at home due it kicking to much (he normally shoots with a silencer and still held the opinion that recoil fatigue affects him). Another top shooter using a 338 LM, with MB, also commented that recoil fatigue sets in after about 20 shots and he really needs to concentrate for the last part of the XSSSA comp.
I would love to have our gongs tested vs high velocity cartridges but I am confident that no real damage will be observed.
I will see what a 100gr Barnes TTSXBT at about 3250 fps does and report back ( I will just need to get a hiding to place shoot from so I am safe from ricochets
We discussed the 338's recoil on Saturday and one shooter left his 338 LM at home due it kicking to much (he normally shoots with a silencer and still held the opinion that recoil fatigue affects him). Another top shooter using a 338 LM, with MB, also commented that recoil fatigue sets in after about 20 shots and he really needs to concentrate for the last part of the XSSSA comp.
I would love to have our gongs tested vs high velocity cartridges but I am confident that no real damage will be observed.
I will see what a 100gr Barnes TTSXBT at about 3250 fps does and report back ( I will just need to get a hiding to place shoot from so I am safe from ricochets
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Re: TacDriver Intro
Yip, it's not the far targets that are the problem... just the really close few (100-200m max).
You should see what .223's do at 50m !
Anyway, all good... just didn't realise that so many people in SA are shooting above 3000fps.
You should see what .223's do at 50m !
Anyway, all good... just didn't realise that so many people in SA are shooting above 3000fps.
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Re: TacDriver Intro
Good day.
Could you please post a link to your website.
For some reason or other, Google takes me around the world but not to the Web adress at the bottom of your post.
Regards,
Gawie.
Could you please post a link to your website.
For some reason or other, Google takes me around the world but not to the Web adress at the bottom of your post.
Regards,
Gawie.
Dont make expensive noise! Make the first shot count!
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Re: TacDriver Intro
Hey Gawie
Site is still in process... we've been let down by our web-developer and just had to switch to a new fdev-guy to get it up ASAP.
It's www.tacdriver.co.za, but check out our post in the long range hunting section it's got all the info in there.
Or feel free to PM me, and I'll give you a call and answer any questions you might have.
Cheers
Rob
Site is still in process... we've been let down by our web-developer and just had to switch to a new fdev-guy to get it up ASAP.
It's www.tacdriver.co.za, but check out our post in the long range hunting section it's got all the info in there.
Or feel free to PM me, and I'll give you a call and answer any questions you might have.
Cheers
Rob
Practical / Tactical Long Range Shooting Competition & Training
website: www.tacdriver.co.za
email: sendit@tacdriver.co.za
website: www.tacdriver.co.za
email: sendit@tacdriver.co.za