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223 crimp or not

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:29 am
by vossie1
Good day gents

We are a few friends reloading for 223 rem AR/lM platforms on a Dillon XL650 , 55gr fmj and sp mainly. some are using mixed headstamp brass and obviously case volume and length will be different. It can become quite a task to check thousands of cases all the time so the guys loading for anti poaching would like one load for all his guns (60+) and should he crimp or not seeing that case lengths might differ or does he have to trim and crimp?

Kind regards
Vossie

Re: 223 crimp or not

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:18 pm
by Hercules Louw
Krimp is probably a good idea in this scenario. He must use Lee Factory crimp dies. They are very effective and different case lenghts does not affect their function.

Re: 223 crimp or not

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:30 pm
by Lategan1
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Beste.

Re: 223 crimp or not

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:10 pm
by vossie1
Hercules Louw wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:18 pm Krimp is probably a good idea in this scenario. He must use Lee Factory crimp dies. They are very effective and different case lenghts does not affect their function.
Thanks Hercules I will replace the Dillon crimp die with a lee crimp die.
Maak so Lategan :laugh:

Re: 223 crimp or not

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:35 pm
by HeinM
Hercules Louw wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:18 pm Krimp is probably a good idea in this scenario. He must use Lee Factory crimp dies. They are very effective and different case lenghts does not affect their function.
Agree. Just take a look at the propper setup for these dies. Too much crimp is no good...

Regards!

Re: 223 crimp or not

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:33 pm
by Alwin
Trimming is important to keep the case length within max specs. If he cases are allowed to stretch too much, dangerous pressures can result.

I agree with the Lee Factory Crimp die. Also, make sure you crimp the case mouth in a cannelure. Bullets without cannelures should not be crimped, especially the CMJ bullets like Frontier.

Re: 223 crimp or not

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:06 am
by Ds J
vossie1 wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:29 am It can become quite a task to check thousands of cases all the time so the guys loading for anti poaching would like one load for all his guns (60+) and should he crimp or not seeing that case lengths might differ or does he have to trim and crimp?
Get them as close to saami specs as possible. Simply because they should be able to fit the most firearms.

Since they will probably be maltreated, setback of bullets should be avoided. Crimp them a little.

Re: 223 crimp or not

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:35 am
by vossie1
Morning gents

I checked about 20 cases last night and all measured 1.752" to 1.768" i will full length size again and re-check.
Thanks for all the info gents.