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Dear members

I have an option to obtain either of the following two scopes that i want to mount onto a Howa 6.5 Creedmoor for target and XSSSA type gong shooting.

My choices are limited due to my budget unfortunately, but which would you choose or recommend:

1. New Nikon Monarch 3 5-20x44 with simple Nikoplex reticle for R6400, or
2. A hardly used Zeiss Conquest HD 5 5-25x50 with RZ Varmint reticle at R10 000?

I have reservations about the Zeiss because i have seen so many of them advertised and for a lot less than they cost new.

To be honest, I would stay away from both. But this is my opinion. I have an SWFA for sale but if you stretch it and wait I would go for a secondhand Sightron SIII 6-24x50.

Probably not what you want to hear, sorry.

Thanks Arnold
I havent committed yet so i appreciate any input.
I want to come join you guys at XSSSA so the scope needs to measure up to the demands without breaking the Bank...

Not sure what those scopes can do but realistically you need about 50 MOA worth of actual elevation travel.

So if you have a 20 MOA rail on the rifle your scope should have at the minimum 60 MOA total elevation travel but from my experience dealing with tolerances I would not choose a scope with less than 70-80 MOA internal adjustment and 100 being better.

Typically this would be a scope with a 30 mm main tube.

Nikon does not have great glass, Zeiss might be better but if you use the wrong mounts there could be problems with the parallex adjustment ...

My list would go as follow:
Vortex HST
Vortex PST
Sightron SIII

Those are in order of preference with the Sightron being the higher one on the list.

SFP is ok for XSSSA so there you can save a couple of bucks.

O yes ... there is also the SWFA 12X42

Sean
I would suggest you tell us what your budget is. Unfortunately scopes don't come cheap.
I agree with what Armold said about the Sightron SIII 6-24x50. You get a lot for your money. ±R15 000.
I personally feel the same about a Lynx LX2 5-20. ±R12 000.
Good luck!

I have a SWFA 12x42 mill mill on a 300wsm hunting rifle with 20 moa rail and am able to hit gongs out to 1200m with out running out of adjustment .

DD

In terms of budget, i was hoping to find something for under R10k... But perhaps i am ill informed... Or asking too much.

Hi Sean
I sent you a pm

Wat van die sightron STAC 4-20x50? Ian het hulle so ruk terug op special gehad vir R8500

HunterB wrote:Wat van die sightron STAC 4-20x50? Ian het hulle so ruk terug op special gehad vir R8500

Ek sal baie beslis ook hierna kyk. Dis PUIK waarde vir geld. Ek het baie onlangs 3 van hulle aangeskaf - 2 vir my pelle, en 1 vir myself en is baie beïndruk met hulle.

A Lynx Lx3 5-30x56 will also be sufficient. With a 20-30moa rail plus the 108moa elevation adjustment available will leave you some in the bank for those really long shots. Only disadvantage in my view is that it is a 34mm tube and rings are are a bit more expensive than normal.

HunterB wrote:Wat van die sightron STAC 4-20x50? Ian het hulle so ruk terug op special gehad vir R8500

Pêl het een op sy dogter se 22-250. Vir die geld is ek baie beindruk met die scope. Nie seker hoe goed dit verstel nie. Vir Sean se doel sou ek dit daarom nie voorstel nie. Dalk oor 6 maande as iemand dit goed getoets het.

Sean wil kom deelneem by XSSSA-skietafstande begin anderkant 500m tot 1250m, geen inskiet voor kompetisie nie. Jou teleskoop se meganika moet spot on en herhaalbaar werk om enigsins die skiet te geniet. Wind gee jou genoeg pakslae, sonder om scope te hê wat nie reg verstel nie. Arnold het baie ervaring, ek sou luister na sy advies. Hier is die beginsel van "Buy once, cry once" van toepassing.

Sean, a fixed magnification scope like the SFWA will fit your budget, have a lot of adjustment and from reports, seem to track well. The lack of magnification will hamper your ability to spot for your team mate a little.

I would rather save a month or two longer and get a Sightron S3. Maybe contact Ian, he might have a special or two.

If you haven't bought a rail yet, consider a 35moa from Gunwarrior. R1000 and well made! Will give you enough elevation for the back gongs.
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And there it is

Daai STAC is n bul van n scope en is great vir n scope onder R10k.
Hy het meer as genoeg verstelling en het S3 se glas.

Niks fout met sy tracking nie. Hy stel ook baie positief.
As dit my geld was sou ek hom verseker oorweeg!

Thanks for the input guys.
Ian has sent me a price on the S3...

Gian_dP wrote:

HunterB wrote:Wat van die sightron STAC 4-20x50? Ian het hulle so ruk terug op special gehad vir R8500

Pêl het een op sy dogter se 22-250. Vir die geld is ek baie beindruk met die scope. Nie seker hoe goed dit verstel nie. Vir Sean se doel sou ek dit daarom nie voorstel nie. Dalk oor 6 maande as iemand dit goed getoets het.

Sean wil kom deelneem by XSSSA-skietafstande begin anderkant 500m tot 1250m, geen inskiet voor kompetisie nie. Jou teleskoop se meganika moet spot on en herhaalbaar werk om enigsins die skiet te geniet. Wind gee jou genoeg pakslae, sonder om scope te hê wat nie reg verstel nie. Arnold het baie ervaring, ek sou luister na sy advies. Hier is die beginsel van "Buy once, cry once" van toepassing.

Sean, a fixed magnification scope like the SFWA will fit your budget, have a lot of adjustment and from reports, seem to track well. The lack of magnification will hamper your ability to spot for your team mate a little.

I would rather save a month or two longer and get a Sightron S3. Maybe contact Ian, he might have a special or two.

If you haven't bought a rail yet, consider a 35moa from Gunwarrior. R1000 and well made! Will give you enough elevation for the back gongs.
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Ek het nou nie toegang tot die top klas teleskope nie, maar daai STac stel presies, skiet gereeld tot op 600m met die 308 wat n volle rotasie (15moa) vereis. En die tracking is spot on... Self al na 900m gedail (33moa) en geskiet en terug na my zero op 100m en skiet presies waar hy moet... Het nog nooit gesukkel dat die scope uit was nie

HunterB wrote:

Gian_dP wrote:

HunterB wrote:Wat van die sightron STAC 4-20x50? Ian het hulle so ruk terug op special gehad vir R8500

Pêl het een op sy dogter se 22-250. Vir die geld is ek baie beindruk met die scope. Nie seker hoe goed dit verstel nie. Vir Sean se doel sou ek dit daarom nie voorstel nie. Dalk oor 6 maande as iemand dit goed getoets het.

Sean wil kom deelneem by XSSSA-skietafstande begin anderkant 500m tot 1250m, geen inskiet voor kompetisie nie. Jou teleskoop se meganika moet spot on en herhaalbaar werk om enigsins die skiet te geniet. Wind gee jou genoeg pakslae, sonder om scope te hê wat nie reg verstel nie. Arnold het baie ervaring, ek sou luister na sy advies. Hier is die beginsel van "Buy once, cry once" van toepassing.

Sean, a fixed magnification scope like the SFWA will fit your budget, have a lot of adjustment and from reports, seem to track well. The lack of magnification will hamper your ability to spot for your team mate a little.

I would rather save a month or two longer and get a Sightron S3. Maybe contact Ian, he might have a special or two.

If you haven't bought a rail yet, consider a 35moa from Gunwarrior. R1000 and well made! Will give you enough elevation for the back gongs.
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Ek het nou nie toegang tot die top klas teleskope nie, maar daai STac stel presies, skiet gereeld tot op 600m met die 308 wat n volle rotasie (15moa) vereis. En die tracking is spot on... Self al na 900m gedail (33moa) en geskiet en terug na my zero op 100m en skiet presies waar hy moet... Het nog nooit gesukkel dat die scope uit was nie

Dis die voordeel van Jaracal, iemand het hom nou al gebruik en getoets en kan eerlike terugvoer gee.



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