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Re: teleurstellende koel prestasie
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:11 am
by Johan Nel
CORE BONDED.
We manufacture rifle bullets in calibers: .30 / .308 dia. ,8mm / .323 dia. and .303 / 312 dia
Weights not listed in price list, can also can be manufactured at request.
Recommendation of Bullets:
0.028 inch (0.71mm) is for game up to springbok and impala.
0.064 inch (1.6mm) is a premium grade bullet for game up to kudu.
0.78 inch (2mm) is for all game up to eland, especially for Magnum calibers.
With correct chosen bullet for the job, weight retention is high.
Ek dink regtig dat Swede goeie perfomance gekry het vir wat die koeels is. Ek het bg van quest se webwerf gecut en paste. Die highlight en font kleur het ek bygevoeg.
Re: teleurstellende koel prestasie
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:45 am
by RUPERT
Het jy vir n oomblik loogies gaan dink wat daai koel moes doen om daai bok dood tekry.Jy het so tese net been geslaan toe jy hom agter in die kop geskiet het.Dink jy nog die koel moes 95% retensie gehou het?
Net my 2c
Re: teleurstellende koel prestasie
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:38 pm
by Swys14
ek het vroeer die jagseisoen met 165gr accubond 'n breinskoot op kudu geskiet 125m, spoed was 2650fps at muzzle. Reg deur.
Re: teleurstellende koel prestasie
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:31 pm
by James Wilson
Geno wrote:Op watse stadium van die bok se dood het die koeël gefaal?
Swede, as ek jy was het ek voortgegaan om die koeels te gebruik
Re: teleurstellende koel prestasie
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:31 am
by Frederik
sako 30-06 wrote:Die vraag wat dan gevra moet word is sou die koeel sy werk gedoen het as die skootplasing nie 100% was nie?
Sou hy die bok gedood het as hy eers groot been getref het?
As jy op 'n koeel verwag om op te maak vir slegte skootplasing moet jy liewers nie skiet nie. Sako dit is nie direk op jou gemik nie maar baie mense het die idee dat die koeel sal opmaak vir slegte skootplasing.
Jy wil tog op die einde van die dag die dier so vinnig as moontlik dood he sonder dat hy ly.
Daar is nie 'n substitute vir slegte skootplasing nie !
Ek sal self nie met my 303 en die impala koeels kop en nekskotte skiet juis omdat ek weet my geweer skiet nie 1/2 MOA op klokslag nie. Bokke is baie duurder as koeels.
Re: teleurstellende koel prestasie
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:20 am
by Dimitri
The Quest bullet used was not recommended for kudu sized animals. And yet it was used on kudu. I think the bullet performed well enough considering the thickness of the bull's skull. It was a one-shot kill.
I agree with Sako. It was not the right bullet to use on kudu in the first place. One could argue that it is fine if shots are restricted to headshots and shots behind the shoulder. And yes, shot placement is "vital". But if you have never wounded or fired a bad shot in the field then you probably have not hunted that much. It will happen sooner or later. An animal may turn it's head and you shoot it's jaw off. Then you need a reliable bullet that can be angled into the vitals. If you pull your shot aimed behind the shoulder and your bullet hits the big shoulder bone then you need a bullet reliable enough to break the bone and reach the vitals. For me, the Quest bullet in question does not fit the bill.
It performed well enough in that particular situation where things went exactly according to plan. But I would suggest a better quality bullet for taking on kudu bulls.
I can think of a number of situations where I needed to take angled shots on big animals like kudu and wildebeest. I used a 180gr Swift A-frame out of my 30-06 and all of those I am thinking of were one-shot kills.
It would be unfair to blame the bullet for failing to reach the vitals if I had used the .71mm Quest [edited for clarity] in those situations. They were not designed for that.
Re: teleurstellende koel prestasie
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:27 am
by cassie_calvinia
weet jul hoe hard is 'n kop? vat 'n byl, en slaan sy skedel..., hy maak net 'n ligte merk.
Re: teleurstellende koel prestasie
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:38 am
by RUPERT
Frederik wrote:sako 30-06 wrote:Die vraag wat dan gevra moet word is sou die koeel sy werk gedoen het as die skootplasing nie 100% was nie?
Sou hy die bok gedood het as hy eers groot been getref het?
As jy op 'n koeel verwag om op te maak vir slegte skootplasing moet jy liewers nie skiet nie. Sako dit is nie direk op jou gemik nie maar baie mense het die idee dat die koeel sal opmaak vir slegte skootplasing.
Jy wil tog op die einde van die dag die dier so vinnig as moontlik dood he sonder dat hy ly.
Daar is nie 'n substitute vir slegte skootplasing nie !
Ek sal self nie met my 303 en die impala koeels kop en nekskotte skiet juis omdat ek weet my geweer skiet nie 1/2 MOA op klokslag nie. Bokke is baie duurder as koeels.
++++1000 Jy kon dit nie beeter gese het nie.Gaan
Re: teleurstellende koel prestasie
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:47 am
by vriell
Dimitri wrote:
It would be unfair to blame the bullet for failing to reach the vitals if I had used a Quest in those situations. They were not designed for that.
Demitri,
Not 100% correct.Choose the correct Quest bullets designed for hunting Kudu . Quest do have them in stock.
Re: teleurstellende koel prestasie
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:55 am
by Dimitri
vriell wrote:Dimitri wrote:
It would be unfair to blame the bullet for failing to reach the vitals if I had used a Quest in those situations. They were not designed for that.
Demitri,
Not 100% correct.Choose the correct Quest bullets designed for hunting Kudu . Quest do have them in stock.
Yep. Got it vriell. That is why I started my post with "The Quest bullet used was not recommended ....."
In my post I was referring specifically to the particular Quest bullet used and not to Quest bullets in general. Perhaps I should have been clearer.
Like Johan Nel said:
0.028 inch (0.71mm) is for game up to springbok and impala.
0.064 inch (1.6mm) is a premium grade bullet for game up to kudu.
0.78 inch (2mm) is for all game up to eland, especially for Magnum calibers.
Re: teleurstellende koel prestasie
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:13 pm
by vriell
Dimitri wrote:vriell wrote:Dimitri wrote:
It would be unfair to blame the bullet for failing to reach the vitals if I had used a Quest in those situations. They were not designed for that.
Demitri,
Not 100% correct.Choose the correct Quest bullets designed for hunting Kudu . Quest do have them in stock.
Yep. Got it vriell. That is why I started my post with "The Quest bullet used was not recommended ....."
In my post I was referring specifically to the particular Quest bullet used and not to Quest bullets in general. Perhaps I should have been clearer.
Like Johan Nel said:
0.028 inch (0.71mm) is for game up to springbok and impala.
0.064 inch (1.6mm) is a premium grade bullet for game up to kudu.
0.78 inch (2mm) is for all game up to eland, especially for Magnum calibers.