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Dankie Koos, ek sal skree as ons vasbrand.

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Vra bq daai man wat dit in sit vir jou hoe lank hy reken die panele gaan hou in die lekker warm Afrika son
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Nuwe ontwikkeling in Suid Afrika vanaf vroeg volgende jaar om die gebruik van EV's aan te moedig - manne wat positief is oor die wye verskeidenheid voordele wat die EV era vir ons land kan inhou, bytvas en doen wat noodsaaklik is.

Kort voorskou van wat in hierdie artikel te lese is en nog meer -
Generating and using solar energy will also circumvent the highly unreliable Eskom grid, prone to frequent load-shedding ­– one of the reasons cited most by consumers for their unwillingness to shift to EVs.
Solar powered EV charging stations in 2023.
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Dit gaan baie interessant wees om hierdie thread te lees oor so 10/20 jaar.
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Pieter, ek sal ook 10/20 jaar van nou af weer hierdie plasing wil lees - jonger lesers sal verwonderd staan dat ons so gesukkel het om nuwe, beter ontwikkelings te aanvaar.

Ek glo 5/10 jaar van nou af sal al 'n beduidende verskil aantoon.
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Nog 'n verdere ontwikkeling in herlaai netwerk vir EV's in Suid Afrika.
Hou maar dop hoe benut die 51% groep die fondse wat finansier word vir die projek.

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Afgesien van SA verbruikers se wag-en-sien benadering ten opsigte van die aankoop en gebruik van EV's plaaslik, heers daar nogtans die volgende positiewe bereidwilligheid ten gunste van EV's -
However, 64% of respondents indicate a willingness to spend up to R500 000 on an EV.
As ons owerhede net die volgende EEN saak kan wysig na 18% in plaas van 25%, sal die opname sommer baie meer positief raak vir die aankoop van EV's plaaslik.
“Internal combustion engine (ICE) imports incur an 18% duty, versus 25% on EV imports, which pushes the cost of an EV to twice that of the average price of a new ICE vehicle (of a similar make/model),” he explains (AutoTrader CEO George Mienie. )
Stadig, maar seker is daar oraloor in die opname positiewe sienswyses en natuurlik ook negatiewes wat nog oorkom moet word.

SA consumers - wait-and-see approach to EVs – AutoTrader 2022 Electric Vehicle Buyers Survey.
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Daai comment daar onder in daai berig som dit eintlik mooi op
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..... proven data that a diesel-powered vehicle has the same environmental footprint after 7-8 years of use than an electric vehicle from day one.
Iewers, weet nie waar nie, het die ou wat daardie vals gegewens gelewer het onderaan die AutoTrader artikel soos hierbo weergee, in iets vreemds getrap wat die geloofwaardigheid van sy kommentaar by die venster uitgooi >:D
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Die oorgrote meerderheid tradisionele motor vervaardigers van binnebrand enjin (BBE) voertuie, slaag daarin om die vinnige ontwikkelingsfase na EV's suksesvol te hanteer, maar dit wil voorkom asof Toyota dit moeilik vind om daarmee by te hou op die oomblik.
"If Toyoda truly thinks Toyota can’t go fully electric in California by 2035, then he’s lost. Whether he truly believes that or not, though, his recent statement indicates that Toyota just can’t keep up. It has been failing in regards to the EV transition, and Toyoda thus wants to slow the whole industry down.

I’m wrapping up our 3rd quarter U.S. EV sales report. More than 200,000 fully electric vehicles were sold in the United States in the 3rd quarter. Guess how many fully electric Toyotas were sold here. Zero."
Lees meer hieroor in die onderstaande artikel -

Toyota — Is It Circling The Drain?
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Toyota sien seker die is n sirkus
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Hier begin die groot sirkus nou hier plaaslik - wie weet, dalk ry hulle Toyata BBE's aan vanaf die Durban hawe na hulle vloed beskadigde fabriek in KZN.
Dis immers 'n lekker kort trippie vir die swaarvrag EV trokke, wat mos nou kwansuis nie lang afstande kan aflê nie.
These trucks can operate at a total gross combination weight of 44 t.

In South Africa, local customer KDG Logistics has signed a letter of intent to buy two Volvo FM 4 × 2 electric truck tractors.
They will be used by KDG Logistics – an auto carrier – in a port-to-factory operation in Durban.
Heavy electric trucks - First SA units to arrive in 2023.
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Toyota is seker net bly hulle het nie EV's gebou toe hulle weg gespoel het nie anders sou die goed ook ontplof het soos hulle nou daar in Florida met die hurricane aan die brand geslaan het
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Hierna volg harde feite oor EV's tydens die "Hurricane Ian" in Florida tydjie gelede en sommer verdere water gevalle waarby EV's betrokke was.
Let op, geen ontploffings, aan die brand slaan of selfs enigiemand wat elektriese skokke opgedoen het as gevolg van die uiters buitengewone water vlakke waarin die EV's en ander toerusting hulle bevind het nie.

Hier is iets om aan te herkou oor die vermoë van sekere EV's.
So, yeah, Teslas can drive through floodwaters quite alright. The heavy weight of the skateboard battery platform surely helps. The tremendous Tesla traction control does too. The almost unmatched power of the Tesla Model X Plaid has to come in handy as well. This is not to say a Tesla Model X can drive through any water, but it somewhat backs up Elon Musk’s claim a few months ago that a Tesla can actually act as a boat for a short time. (Whether you can steer a Tesla if it goes into true “boat mode” and loses touch with the ground is another matter, but I’m not going to go test it out in my Model 3.)
Tesla Model X in 'Boat Mode'
(Wees bietjie geduldig met hierdie koppeling, aangesien daar videos in die artikel voorkom.)

Wonder hoekom hierdie EV nie aan die brand geslaan of ontplof het nie?
Dronk Kaaskop sit sy EV in verkeerde rat.

Nog iets verder met residensiële Tesla sonkrag stelsels tydens die selfde orkaan in Florida.
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https://www.motorbiscuit.com/flooded-te ... g-florida/

Laat weet as ek nog n paar links vir jou moet soek, skiet jy dalk Impala koels ook?
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Dankie vir daardie terugvoering, dit is insiggewend en verseker iets om in gedagte te hou in die toekoms.
The mixture of electricity and salt water leads to these latent fires.
“There’s a ton of EVs disabled from lan. As those batteries corrode, fires start. That’s a new challenge that our firefighters haven’t faced before. At least on this kind of scale”.
“Just because the vehicle is submerged doesn’t mean the energy is discharged in any way. Anytime you mix electrical components and salt water together, it is a recipe for disaster.”
Ek is seker daarvan dat Tesla en alle ander EV vervaardigers, baie deeglik kennis hiervan sal neem en hierdie nuwe uitdaging vinnig sal oorkom.

Net soos Ford 'n tyd gelede ook spontane brande gehad het in van hulle Kuga modelle - dít na jare der jare in die bedryf met binnebrand enjin ((BBE) aangedrewe voertuie - probleem ook lankal opgelos.

'n Verdere twee artikels in daardie koppeling van jou, meld die volgende wat weer in vloede in Sjina gebeur het EN dan ook gewone karwas masjiene se invloed op EV's -
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One driver managed the floodwater just fine, however. Inside EVs reports that a Tesla Model 3 was spotted driving through floodwaters that covered the grille. The publication was unable to find out what condition the Model 3 is in now, but the fact that it could drive while other vehicles stalled is incredible.

Tesla models drive through deep water as part of their testing phase, so Tesla drivers can rest assured that navigating heavy rains won’t be an issue.
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You’ll be relieved to know that taking an electric vehicle through a carwash is perfectly safe. It’s not all that different from driving your EV in the rain. Sure, a carwash has power jets that spray water at a higher velocity than rain, but your car will be OK if it gets wet.
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Ek is persoonlik maar sinies, veral op grond van ons plaaslike toestande.

Vir sommige mense onder sekere omstandighede kan dit werk as 'n snaaksigheid. Daar is egter onvoeldoende infrastruktuur vir vinnige herlaaiers in Suid-Afrika. Om tuis te herlaai vat lank. Selfs die sogenaamde vinnige herlaaiers gaan jou lank laat wag. Jy maak jou brandstoftenk in minute vol. Misdadigers sal kort voor lank agterkom dat die rykes met hulle speelgoed 'n geruime tyd op die herlaaipunt gaan wees. Dit is immers net rykes wat tans elektriese voertuie kan bekostig. Dit sal gou herdoop word na misdaadtonele.

Elektrisiteit raak net duurder in Suid-Afrika en Eskom se wiele val af. Nie baie mense kan bekostig om R200 000 te betaal om onafhanklik van Eskom te word nie.

Hierdie lyk nie werklik vir my na die oplossing van die toekoms nie. Dit is eerder die politici se nuutste agenda. In werklikheid kom die batterye nie op wolkies aangevlieg met voëltjies wat in die agtergrond fluit nie. Dit verg mynbedrywighede en energie om dit te vervaardig. Tensy jy in Groenland bly met hulle termiese bronne, moet krag meestal met fossielbrandstowwe opgewek word. Die batterye word swakker na gebruik en die voertuie word eerder afgeskryf as om die batterye te vervang, vanweë die vervangingskoste.

Iemand wat redelik in stede ry, kan dalk voordeel trek uit die tegnologie. Dit blyk egter dat wanneer die voertuie prakties getoets word, ly die meeste gebruikers aan wat hulle oorsee "range anxiety" noem. Dit lyk soos verkleurmannetjies wat bestuur met een oog op die pad en die ander een op die oorblywende reikafstand.

Die probleem blyk veral na vore te kom wanneer vrag gedra word of daar gesleep word. Die energiedigtheid van 'n battery vergelyk maar sleg met die van petrol of diesel. In die volgende video word twee baie indrukwekkende bakkies getoets met 'n ordentlike sleepwa. Soos die manne sê is die bakkie batterye se kapasiteit die ekwivalent van 'n 4 gelling en 'n 6,2 gelling brandstoftenk. Die reikafstand wat aanvanklik getoon word verdwyn soos mis voor die son onder sleeptoestande. Die manne moes op 'n stadium afhaak om te gaan herlaai. In Suid-Afika as jy terugkom is die waens of die inhoud daarvan weg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH4teZSCIj8

Ek hoop egter genoeg mense gaan gebruik maak van hierdie tegnologie. As al hoe meer mense begin speel met battery voertuie, sal vraag en aanbod waarskynlik lei tot 'n daling in die brandstofprys.

Moet egter nie vir my 'n elektriese voertuig probeer aanbied nie. As ek in so ding ingedwing word, sleep ek 'n waentjie met 'n kragopwekker saam!
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Dit is eerder die politici se nuutste agenda.
Daar is dit nou maar BLM het ook 70 miljoe $ uit mense gekry omdat mense alles glo wat hul hoor
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Met die benutting van sonkrag deur groot instansies soos Gold Fields, om in hulle krag behoeftes te voorsien, raak elektrisiteit al meer beskikbaar om vir onder andere, EV's se herlaai geriewe te kan voorsien. Hoe meer dit gebeur hoe laer daal die sogenaamde "range anxiety" weens die groter beskikbaarheid van elektrisiteit oraloor in Suid Afrika.

Gold Field's south deep gold mine's 50mw Solar PV plant.

Moet ook nie die huiseienaar se sonkrag opwekking onderskat nie, dit is 'n geweldige groot bydrae tot die poel van beskikbare elektrisiteit as dit eers begin posvat hier in Suid Afrika.
Net soos wat nie elkeen van ons die geld het om ons eie huis kontant te kan koop nie, maar tóg 'n huis besit deur middel van die toeganklikheid tot 'n huisverband, netso kan 'n huis sonkrag insatallasie ook via 'n verband gedoen word. SA banke is reeds gereed om hierdie fasiliteite uit te bou en beskikbaar te stel aan huiseienaars.
Boonop hou hierdie tipe verband die unieke voordeel in dat die huiseienaar deur die elektrisiteit besparing, die sonkrag verband homself eintlik betaal.
The R715 million ($38 million) solar plant ......................... South Deep mine will save almost $7 million per year on its huge electric bill.
Met ander woorde, Gold Fields se aanvanklike $38 miljoen uitgawe sal in net minder as 5 en 'n half jaar uit besparings in elektrisiteit herwin word - daarna is die besparing geld in hulle sak OF met die huiseienaar geval kan die elektrisiteitskoste besparing nadat die sonkrag verband afgelos is, selfs die lang termyn huisverband verder help aflos.
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So effens van die onderwerp af, maar darem nog te doen met elektrisiteit, wat ons almal eerstens benodig, en tweedens om in die nabye toekoms moét hê om ons EV's mee te herlaai.

Ietsie hieroor wat in artikel hierna voorkom -
To help plug the electricity generation gap, Eskom is making land available close to its power stations, where there is sufficient grid capacity, for Independent Power Producers (IPPs) to lease and invest in renewable energy projects that can be implemented very quickly. In response to the South African President’s call for “an ambitious, bold and urgent response to the energy crisis,” Eskom signed lease agreements with four independent power producer investors last week for the commercial lease and use of land parcels at two of its power stations in Mpumalanga province for the construction of new clean energy generation capacity. This is the first batch of lease agreements to be signed with private companies. It is comprised of land parcels around Eskom’s Majuba and Tutuka power stations.
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Wat dink julle hiervan -
South Africa wants to build electric cars with climate aid funding.
Lees die artikel en spreek jou mening hieroor uit.

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Daar is al baie gepraat en bespiegel oor batterye vir EV's wat van baie duur en skaars materiale vervaardig word.
So ook word daar baie navorsing en ontwikkelings gedoen dwarsoor die wêreld om hierdie probleem te oorkom en met meer bekostigbare materiale beter, ligter en goedkoper batterye te kan vervaardig wat in alle tipes elektriese aangedrewe voertuie gebruik sal kan word.

Hier is so 'n voorskou van wat in die onderstaande artikel gelees kan word.
Our chemistry uses lightweight and abundant materials such as sulfur, boron, and carbonized hemp – instead of heavy metals such as nickel and cobalt. LiS/B4C-hemp batteries will be great for heavy-duty trucks and electric airplanes.
Better, cheaper batteries from plant waste.

So gepraat van batterye geskik vir lugvaart, hier kan gelees word hoe daarmee gevorder word.

Jet eVTOL
Because the engines can pivot, they allow for quick vertical takeoff and an easy transition into flight.
Recently, Lilium had shared a video of the Phoenix 2 prototype achieving just that — going from a hover to wing-borne flight. It reached speeds of over 180 kph (112 mph) during this test flight.
Terwyl ons nou in die lug is, hier is nog meer oor die vordering met elektries aangedrewe vliegtuie - en hulle word al verkoop aan kliënte.

Alice Electric Aircraft

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Op 19 Oktober 2022 het hierdie einste minister ander praatjies gemaak oor hierdie selfde "US$8.5 billion" as wat sy nou weer op 24 Oktober 2022 kwytraak.

19 Oktober 2022 -
South Africa wants to spend billions of dollars fostering an electric vehicle industry, complicating efforts to finalize an $8.5 billion climate aid package before next month’s United Nations climate summit.
Funding nations aren’t enthusiastic about the EV proposals, though, and would only offer grants for studies, the people said.
Hier kom 'n ding - korrupte ogies sien 'n gaping.
Vandaar hierdie bogenoemde hoof vir daardie artikel.

En nou 24 Oktober 2022 -
Forestry, Fisheries and the Environment Minister Barbara Creecy reports that South Africa will push for the establishment of a people-centred ‘Just Energy Transition Financing Framework’ at the upcoming COP27 climate conference, to be held in Sharm el-Sheik, Egypt, in early November.
Minister Gladde Jakkals
En nou met die deuntjie verandering met betrekking tot dieselfde saak, die huidige hoof vir die 24 Oktober 2022 artikel.

Hoe wen 'n mens met so 'n verkleurmannetjie spelery op regeringsvlak, waarby boonop buitelandse fondse betrokke is?
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In die onderstaande artikel blyk dit duidelike dat minister en ander regeringsamptenare wye draaie loop en allerlei rookskerms voorhou, wat Suid Afrika se vordering na die nuwe EV (NEV) tegnologie, belemmer.

Opmerkings soos hierdie -
Trade, Industry and Competition Minister Ebrahim Patel said there could never be a single, binary switch to electric vehicles (EVs) in South Africa.
Davies warned that the industry would need to look out for protectionism measures coming about, “dressed up” as climate change activism.

Erwin echoed this sentiment, saying the current government should not be naïve. “Europe is waking up to the fact that they have a major structural problem on their hands.
Net die Wes Kaapse regering is positief -
Western Cape Minister of Mobility Daylin Mitchell said the provincial government could not wait for national government’s stance on NEV policy to be finalised and, therefore, took proactive steps to adopt its own strategy.

The province has already identified potential NEV production sites in the province and was engaging industry stakeholders to realise projects, while having NEVs as part of the provincial government’s fleet already.
Regering traag en motor industrie gereed vir nuwe tegnologie.

Daarteenoor is die meeste motor industrie mense positief en reeds gereed om die nuwe EV (NEV) tegnologie voluit aan te pak - bv. -
BMW Group South Africa CEO Peter van Binsbergen said that, for a “switch” to NEVs to occur in the automotive manufacturing industry, the country needed economies of scale, therefore maximised production of cars, and a focus on what components can be produced locally.
Toyota South Africa Motors CEO Andrew Kirby said OEMs would put 50% of its production at risk if they did not produce low- or zero-emission vehicles as soon as 2030, owing to pressure from export markets, European countries announcing restrictions on ICE vehicles and the local regulatory drive that is happening.
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Re: EV's - Elektriese Voertuie

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Soos in die onderstaande artikel gesien kan word, het Mike Whitfield, Nissan Afrika se Besturende Direkteur, in April 2022 al die SA regring gewaarsku dat die volgende kan gebeur -
“A very large percentage of our exports as an industry go to Europe, and while Europe is moving aggressively to electric, we are not,” said Whitfield, who is also president of the African Association of Automotive Manufacturers. “We are going to progressively lose our potential markets.”
RSA staar verlies van uitvoere in die gesig

Baie onlangs het Volkswagen se senior bestuur in Suid Afrika selfs verder gegaan en ultimatums aan RSA regering gestel oor presies dieselfde voete slepery met die EV bevordering in Suid Afrika.

En so het Mercedes Benz ook al vroeër vanjaar van hulle laat hoor -
Stop taxing EV's unfairly

Dit gaan nie net oor die jeukerigheid om EV's, herlaai fasiliteite en onnodige hoë invoerbelasing persentasies op EV's op te hef nie, MAAR veral oor die hoë persentasie buitelandse verdienste wat uit die RSA se ekonomie kan wegval, indien daar nie vinger getrek word in die verband nie.
Ons reeds pap ekonomie kan nie nog sulke dwarsklappe vorentoe hanteer nie.

Die "pêre" met hulle "stêre" op die hoë "chêrs" beter 'n slag bykom.
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