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Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:05 pm
by Dale SH
Diesel Dog wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:20 am
Rem wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:11 am Hi Petri,

Eks nie in SA nie maar hier in Nieuseeland hou die manne baie RL26 in 300wsm, hul noem hom "fairy dust" en ook RL16.

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Nou wonder ek of Dale se aanbeveling n "fairy tale" is :laugh: :laugh:

N560 doen goed met die swaarder koeels in my geweer S365 LOT89 was ook goed.

DD
You need to make a clear distinction between different powders for different bullet weights.
In the300WSM Rel16/17 for the 150 - 200 grainers
Rel 26 for the heavies I.O.W 200 grain plus

Viht N560 and Reloder 26 have similar thermochemical properties/performance in suitable cartridges.

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:07 pm
by Dale SH
Petrie
Is your chamber specifically cut to accommodate that long TPL you using ?

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:12 pm
by Petrie303
Dale SH wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:07 pm Petrie
Is your chamber specifically cut to accommodate that long TPL you using ?
Hi,

The reamer was designed to seat long bullets like the 210 Bergers optimally. My zero jump with 210 LRBT Bergers is 79.2mm, the bullets also fits inside my mag with the zero jump inside my REM 700 Long action.

Regards,
Petrie

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:36 pm
by Dale SH
Interesting. Thank you for the information.

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:09 pm
by Petrie303
Dale SH wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:36 pm Interesting. Thank you for the information.
Hi Dale,

A Good gunsmith can use a throuter(don't know how its spelled) to increase jour TPL for better seating of longer/heavy bullets, taking into account your magazine space and or if you want shoot it as a single shot...

Regards,
Petrie

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 8:54 am
by Dale SH
Petrie303 wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:09 pm
Dale SH wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:36 pm Interesting. Thank you for the information.
Hi Dale,

A Good gunsmith can use a throater(don't know how its spelled) to increase jour TPL for better seating of longer/heavy bullets, taking into account your magazine space and or if you want shoot it as a single shot...

Regards,
Petrie
Good morning Petrie.
I am well aware of the long throat reamers and their application/use.
I was just trying to establish if your rifle had in fact been reamed with such a reamer and that your original information regarding your COL/TPL was
actually fact and not a typing error.

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:14 am
by Diesel Dog
Kyk al van Maandag pad-af vir the Courier Guy met die 180GR Krieke.Die 24ste moet hulle by Bigwater vertoon, daars nie baie tyd vir lading ontwikkeling nie ,soek net die teiken spoed en voorgestelde jump het geen benul van monos nie. Enige hulp sal gaaf wees.

Van die manne wat al met monos gejag het se ek moet "chill pille " gebruik dat ek my nie doodskrik as die bok na die skoot weg hardloop nie! :laugh: :laugh: Praat ook iets van n goed geleerde klein hondjie wat help.
DD

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:53 am
by Capt. Yoda
DD jy behoort nie met hulle te sukkel nie is n maklike koel om te laat skiet, gee hulle n lekker lang jump van so 3mm en gooi kruit tot jy gelukkig is met jou spoed, ek is seker Dale sal jou kan help met n spoed om voor te mik.

Ja die mono jagters het gewoonlik so klein brakkie wat saam draf....

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:59 am
by tripodmvr
Barnes en ander monos gee ook een skoot DRT (dead right there) skote. Nie alle loodpille het ook daardie effek nie.

1. Bokke hardloop 'n ent en slaan dan neer met beide tipe koeëls. Sommiges is DRT skote. Sagter koeëls gee gewoonlik die DRT omdat hulle intern opbreek, maar kwes ook maklik as been getref word.
2. Ek hou nie daarvan om lood te eet nie.
3. Vleisskade is minder met monos. Vleiskoste is R35+ per kilo, so 'n R20 mono is goedkoop as dit 1 kilo spaar. Bloedswam, as dit voorkom, is ook nie so "snotterig" as met lood nie en was makliker uit.

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:00 am
by LUAN
Moet ook nie skrik en dink dit was mis as jy nie die kenmerkende doef hoor as hy die bok op die blad tref. Ek het laas naweek amper my koedoe n tweede skoot gegee toe dop hy skielik om.

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:34 pm
by Diesel Dog
Koeels is hier is 2950 fps haalbaar met n560 ?

DD

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:00 pm
by tripodmvr
Het jy nog die die 28.74 duim loop. Daar is 'n node by 2950vps. Jou geweer gaan hande klap. Druk bereken by 48K psi. Probeer 64gr N560.

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:38 pm
by Dale SH
tripodmvr wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:00 pm Het jy nog die die 28.74 duim loop. Daar is 'n node by 2950vps. Jou geweer gaan hande klap. Druk bereken by 48K psi. Probeer 64gr N560.
Oom
DD's barrel is 24.016 inch
N560 is not optimal but it will go bang and the bullet will leave the barrel.
Node is going to be at +- 2880 fps and 65.0 grains should be close.
May be a compressed load and throw some fireworks.

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:56 pm
by Diesel Dog
Will S 365 be a better choice lott91

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Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:57 pm
by tripodmvr
I battle to keep up with DD and his circumcision procedures. 70fps is going to do very little at 300m.

DD, ek is ook nuuskierig oor hoe die Krieke gaan maak. Gooi kole.

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:00 pm
by Dale SH
Node speed will be roughly the same but case fill and powder burn percentage will be better.

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:05 pm
by Dale SH
Do you have any TPL measurements yet ?
I assume this is the .308 180 grain Kriek LRH (long range hunter) bullet ?

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:28 pm
by Diesel Dog
TPL 75mm 2.5mm jump.

DD

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:29 pm
by Diesel Dog
.308 180 grain Kriek LRH (long range hunter) bullet


DD

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:31 pm
by Dale SH
Try 61.1 grains S365 for 2865 fps @ +- 54500 psi

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:32 pm
by Dale SH
Shoot 3 rounds out of your kitchen window :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:50 pm
by Diesel Dog
[quote="Dale SH" post_id=848630 time=1623425528 user_id=6834]
Shoot 3 rounds out of your kitchen window :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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I wanted to but the magnetospeed is locked away and the keys are in a vehicle that will only be returning in the morning. >:D

DD
PS to get hold of a tin of 365 I have to sacrifice a tin of n550 is it worth the cost just for less flames.

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:11 pm
by Dale SH
N550 will also work well.

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:17 pm
by Dale SH
58.0 grains N550
65.0 grains N560

Give us the velocity and we can fine tune.

Re: 300WSM

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:26 pm
by Diesel Dog
[quote="Dale SH" post_id=848634 time=1623428248 user_id=6834]
58.0 grains N550
65.0 grains N560

Give us the velocity and we can fine tune.
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Lets see what tomorrow brings.
Thanks for the help, if I lived in a big city I could have entertained a RELOADER load. :laugh: :laugh:

DD