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Dale SH wrote:35.7 grains for 3385 fps @ 60050 psi.

Your burn rate is even higher than with the Nosler CC.
I have to ask if you sure you not in the lands again ?
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The only thing I attribute this to is that the powder was exposed to the elements overnight in the scale :-[
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Or the A max has a longer bearing surface
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Dale SH wrote:Or the A max has a longer bearing surface
I think I know what is happening here .I shot 3 shots with same load and tpl 66.47mm the speed of 2 shots was 3387fps and the third was 3552fps ,if we disregard the 3552fps one then it is obvious that by dercreasing the col the bullet is seated past the case neck junction increasing the neck-tension.

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Thanks for your help Dale ,I think Marius is preoccupied with a plumbing emergency!

Load 35.7gr 365 col 65.5 mm gives 3359fps.I wil roll up a couple and test tomorrow .

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Hercules Louw wrote:
Diesel Dog wrote:
ruaanb wrote:as ek die storie so kyk moet jy nie n 22-250 hê nie.

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Ja die ding is so temperamenteel soos n saalperd merrie op hitte.Hy wil net nie n lekker stryk-gang vat nie .

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Diesel Dog, ek is jammer om van jou gesukkel te lees en hoop jy gaan die temperamentele 22-250 wen. Hieronder 'n paar gedagtes wat jy kan oorweeg:
* Kry vir jou 'n Labradar chronograaf, jy sal nie terugkyk nie. Dit het die addisionele voordeel dat jy die BC van die koeëls uit jou geweer kan bereken oor die eerste 100m en dus vergelykings tussen verskillende koeëls kan tref.
* 1 in 8 groefdraai is baie styf en jou koeëls mag moontlik seerkry in die Sabatti se loop teen die hoë trompsnelhede, doen 'n toets teen so 100 tot 150ft/s stadiger as waarmee jy tans werk. Jy kan selfs kyk na die 80gr klas koeëls met 'n hoër BC maar teen 'n laer spoed.
* Toets die RDF koeëls waar hulle 2.5mm weg van die lands is. Ek het in die 6.5Creedmoor en 300WSM gevind hulle wil nie te naby aan die lands wees nie.

Ek bly egter by my standpunt wat ek op 'n vorige draad vir jou gesê het, nl: "Maar met alles in ag genome dink ek jy het 'n fout gemaak om jou 22-250AI te verkoop, daai plat trajek en akkuraatheid gaan jy moeilik ewenaar. Met 53gr V-Maxe en 'n 1 in 9 tot 12 twist is 'n 22-250 AI moeilik om op te verbeter."
Hercules jy het n PM.

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Eendag lank gelede het ek n 22-250 gehad ,dit was n mooi blink geweer maar dit was nie lank nie of ek moes hom afstaan vir verbeteringe .Dit is nou al 'n wyle, sal ek daai 22-250 ooit weer sien! ???

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Kry hy n ander loop?
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DD moet nooit deel wees van daai "loop lewe" gesprekke nie
A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.
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Ek bly egter by my standpunt wat ek op 'n vorige draad vir jou gesê het, nl: "Maar met alles in ag genome dink ek jy het 'n fout gemaak om jou 22-250AI te verkoop, daai plat trajek en akkuraatheid gaan jy moeilik ewenaar. Met 53gr V-Maxe en 'n 1 in 9 tot 12 twist is 'n 22-250 AI moeilik om op te verbeter."
Ek dink DD verlang na die een wat weggekom het....
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Nico Harris wrote:Kry hy n ander loop?
Op die stadium net kosmetiese veranderings om sy koeëls mooier te laat lyk as hulle in die dop gedruk is. Die teorie is dat as die patrone mooi lyk sal die groepe ook mooi lyk "form follows function" :laugh: :laugh:

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Hercules Louw wrote:
Ek bly egter by my standpunt wat ek op 'n vorige draad vir jou gesê het, nl: "Maar met alles in ag genome dink ek jy het 'n fout gemaak om jou 22-250AI te verkoop, daai plat trajek en akkuraatheid gaan jy moeilik ewenaar. Met 53gr V-Maxe en 'n 1 in 9 tot 12 twist is 'n 22-250 AI moeilik om op te verbeter."
Ek dink DD verlang na die een wat weggekom het....

Jy is nou nes my vrou."Ek het jou mos gesê!!"
Vat die wen ek mis hom al lankal.

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Huntex moet nou klaar maak , my kieste is nou 10bar opgepomp en dis nie van die lag nie . Die res van die land het nie tot stilstand gekom nie en ek soek my geweer , my kluis lyk onnet as alles nie op sy plek staan nie.
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Ek het vandag tyding gekry dat die "prodigal gun" op-pad huistoe is ,het opdrag gegee om n vet ossie te slag vir die feesmaal , gaan hom mooi skoonmaak en met n nuwe "scope" klee ,sal hom n550 of s 365 voer tot sy honger geles is .
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Het die geweer toe terug gekry en moet nou na die veranderinge weer lading soek.

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s 365 lot 89 37.1 gr for 3381 fps magneto speed
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28 " loop

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Moet ek vinniger of stadiger ek weet regtig nie meer wat die geweer wil he nie .

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37.6 grains for 3417 MV = Node 3
59185 psi

Saami spec for 22-250 COL is +- 60.0mm
How do you get to 68.5mm COL ?
At 68.5mm you only have +- 2.57mm of the bullet shank (excluding boat tail) in the neck.
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Dale SH wrote:37.6 grains for 3417 MV = Node 3
59185 psi

Saami spec for 22-250 COL is +- 60.0mm
How do you get to 68.5mm COL ?
At 68.5mm you only have +- 2.57mm of the bullet shank (excluding boat tail) in the neck.
Thanks Dale
The free bore of the rifle was altered to accommodate the long heavy bullets , What is the new lot of 365 behaving like with these components ?
Has the node speed gone up becuase of the longer col or the powder burn rate or both ?

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OK. I understand now.
The powder is behaving as expected from S365 in an "overbore" caliber at higher pressure.
In other words the burn rate is substantially higher than QL default, but most of your other batches of S365 have shown these tendencies as well.
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Your bullet shank seating depth still concerns me though.
The bullet must be hanging in there by it's fingernails
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Do you load this rifle as a single shot with that long COL or do the cartridges fit ino the magazine ?
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Dale SH wrote:Your bullet shank seating depth still concerns me though.
The bullet must be hanging in there by it's fingernails
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I did shorten your case trim length a fraction to be below SAAMI spec.
If you satisfied with that then by all means.
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Dale SH wrote:Do you load this rifle as a single shot with that long COL or do the cartridges fit ino the magazine ?
Room to spare.
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Thanks.
Did you modify the magazine ?
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Dale SH wrote:Thanks.
Did you modify the magazine ?
It is original.

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DD i see the bullet is black, do you think it can work?


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