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Hello all,

I have Howa .243 bull barrel that I'm building up as a project rifle for voersit springbuck and hunting jackal. I currently have a Vortex Viper HS-LR 4-16x44 which I am very happy with during the day time, but I struggle a little bit to identify further targets at night and think I could benefit from a bigger objective. I have below average vision in my dominant shooting eye and have to wear glasses when shooting to avoid parallax on the crosshair - so the more light transmission the better I guess.

What would your suggestions be for good large objective scope with similar zoom range to my Vortex Viper? I am a Vortex fan and use their scopes and binoculars. Being a student my budget is too tight for a NightForce etc but I am willing to spend money on a decent product with good warranty etc and will consider most brands.

I have read a few posts where people suggested the Lynx 2.5-12x56 IR SA Hunters for good light transmission. I am also considering the Vortex Viper 6-20x50 because I can get it for a good price.

Any other suggestions from people using scopes for these purposes would be great.

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Get anything with European glass ie Swarovski, Zeiss, Leica and S&B etc. 30mm tube and 50 or 56mm objective. This will be the best for night hunting.

Look out for 2nd hand scopes as there are gems that come onto the market from time to time.

I cannot comment on the lynx as I have never looked at one, but I either have owned or do own all of the above and they will do the job.

You mention a tight budget, could you put a figure on that?
Something like a leupold Vx3 will also work great, but try stick to big objective as highest priority and tube diameter maybe not so much.



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BeesBreet wrote:Get anything with European glass ie Swarovski, Zeiss, Leica and S&B etc. 30mm tube and 50 or 56mm objective. This will be the best for night hunting.

Look out for 2nd hand scopes as there are gems that come onto the market from time to time.

I cannot comment on the lynx as I have never looked at one, but I either have owned or do own all of the above and they will do the job.

You mention a tight budget, could you put a figure on that?
Something like a leupold Vx3 will also work great, but try stick to big objective as highest priority and tube diameter maybe not so much.



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I agree with BeesBreet. If your budget is very very tight, get one of the Wildgames from Geno while you save up for what you want.
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Die verligte kruishaar is dalk iets wat jy soek aangesien dit nogal help as jy in die vroë of laat ure van die dag skiet?
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'n Vaste vergroting 8x56 gaan vir jou die beste waarde vir geld wees in my opinie maar ek het geen ervaring met nagskiet nie so die ander kan maar hierop kommentaar lewer ;)
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Arnold wrote:'n Vaste vergroting 8x56 gaan vir jou die beste waarde vir geld wees in my opinie maar ek het geen ervaring met nagskiet nie so die ander kan maar hierop kommentaar lewer ;)
Jy is heltemal reg, ons stel gewoonlik ons scopes op n sekere zoom en raak nie aan hom in die nag nie, weet net nie of dit dalk in die dag gaan pla nie...

Enige van daai twee scopes sal die werk mooi doen


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BeesBreet wrote:Get anything with European glass ie Swarovski, Zeiss, Leica and S&B etc. 30mm tube and 50 or 56mm objective. This will be the best for night hunting.

Look out for 2nd hand scopes as there are gems that come onto the market from time to time.

I cannot comment on the lynx as I have never looked at one, but I either have owned or do own all of the above and they will do the job.

You mention a tight budget, could you put a figure on that?
Something like a leupold Vx3 will also work great, but try stick to big objective as highest priority and tube diameter maybe not so much.

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Good advice - I think something better but secondhand is probably a good choice. My budget is probably in the R6-10k mark depending on what I find. I am not really in a rush so I will keep my eyes on the forum ads etc.
Arnold wrote:'n Vaste vergroting 8x56 gaan vir jou die beste waarde vir geld wees in my opinie maar ek het geen ervaring met nagskiet nie so die ander kan maar hierop kommentaar lewer ;)
I agree 100% - and I know the guys who cull springbuck at night use the 8x56 regularly but I am worried that I may miss the extra magnification for further springbuck headshots in the daytime.

Thanks again for the responses guys.
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Big Matt, my opinie is dat jy nie n scope meer as x12 vergroting nodig het nie 50mm of 56mm objective en los maar verligte kruishaar, as jy n baie gedimde spotlight gebruik gee verligte kruishaar te veel lig terug na jou oog. Ek gebruik n Zeiss 3-12×56 en scopes wat ek al self in die nag gekyk het wat ook goed doen is n Swarovski z3 4-12×50, en meopta meopro 4-12×50 en meostar 3-12×56. Nog n goeie scope behoort n Schmidt and bender klassik 2,5-10×56 (hongaarse model om koste laer te hou) te wees. Humansdorp se ko-op het goeie pryse. Spaar maar eerder bietjie langer vir goeie glas, jy gaan nog lank jag as jy van die begin af reg koop. n Schmidt and bender 8x56 ook goeie scope.Happy shopping
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Wat van Lynx 3-12x56 Sahunter kruis met illuminated centre dot op die kruis? Weet hulle het 30mm tube. JJV


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Lamtjop wrote:Big Matt, my opinie is dat jy nie n scope meer as x12 vergroting nodig het nie 50mm of 56mm objective en los maar verligte kruishaar, as jy n baie gedimde spotlight gebruik gee verligte kruishaar te veel lig terug na jou oog. Ek gebruik n Zeiss 3-12×56 en scopes wat ek al self in die nag gekyk het wat ook goed doen is n Swarovski z3 4-12×50, en meopta meopro 4-12×50 en meostar 3-12×56. Nog n goeie scope behoort n Schmidt and bender klassik 2,5-10×56 (hongaarse model om koste laer te hou) te wees. Humansdorp se ko-op het goeie pryse. Spaar maar eerder bietjie langer vir goeie glas, jy gaan nog lank jag as jy van die begin af reg koop. n Schmidt and bender 8x56 ook goeie scope.Happy shopping
Dankie Lam - dit is ook baie goeie advies. Ek stem saam met jou opinie oor die 12x en ek sal my oe oop hou vir een van daai scopes wat jy aanbeveel.
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Gerhardu on the forum, has n Vortex Pst for sale for a very good price.
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Ek het begin jakkalsjag met n Lynx2.5-10x56 en later met die LX3 3-12x56. Baie goed gewerk maar nou n Swarovski Z3 4-12x50 met BRH kruishaar gekoop. Daar is rerig nie n vergelyking tussen die Swaro en Lynx nie. Die BRH is dun genoeg vir kopskote in die dag en dik genoeg vir nagjag. Het bietjie gesukkel met die SA Jagters kruishaar want was effe dik na my smaak.

Die Swaro se glas is ook net in n ander klas. ID nou gemaklik diere tot anderkant 400m waar ek soms met die Lynx effe gesukkel het. Die Swaro stel ook nie uit soos ek soms met die Lynx ondervind het.

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Thanks guys - Henry 270 I was wondering about the thickness of the SA hunters crosshair being a bit thick. I am used to very fine crosshairs on my vortex and previous scopes so I will have to look through the lynx before I consider it.
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You can also have a look at the Delta Titanium hd 2.5-15x56. A high quality optic that will fit your requirements to a tee and that at a reasonable price. Happy hunting
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Tampie wrote:You can also have a look at the Delta Titanium hd 2.5-15x56. A high quality optic that will fit your requirements to a tee and that at a reasonable price. Happy hunting
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Arnold wrote:'n Vaste vergroting 8x56 gaan vir jou die beste waarde vir geld wees in my opinie maar ek het geen ervaring met nagskiet nie so die ander kan maar hierop kommentaar lewer ;)
Ek stem met Arnold. Lank met 1 in die nag geskiet. Ek en Wielie Waps het die naweek gepraat oor dieselfde onderwerp. Lynx loop mooi in daai klas.
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Ek het die week een aand op skietbaan gaan sit met lightforce spotlight op gongbaan gerig, verste is 300m en toe die vlg scopes getoets. Zeiss 3-12×56(beste), Meopta meopro 6-18×50 op 12x(3de plek)Scmidt&bender 3-12×42(2de) en n lynx lx3 2.5-15x50 op 12x(laaste) die lynx op 12x en paralaks op 100m was sommer melkerig en teleurstellend, toe ek paralaks op 200 en 300m stel toe is scope baie beter, sien alleswat die ander sien dit vat net so bietjie langer se kyk. Die S&B se beeld was my die "crisp"ste en zeiss het wydste Fov en kon die beste sien in die nag. Die meopta was wragtag nie vêr agter die duitsers nie.
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O ja, n vriend van my skiet jakkals in die nag met n meopta meostar 3-12x56 en hyt nou n z3 4-12×50 op n ander geweer en hy sê die z3 skop meopta se gat kwaai.
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Lamtjop wrote:Ek het die week een aand op skietbaan gaan sit met lightforce spotlight op gongbaan gerig, verste is 300m en toe die vlg scopes getoets. Zeiss 3-12×56(beste), Meopta meopro 6-18×50 op 12x(3de plek)Scmidt&bender 3-12×42(2de) en n lynx lx3 2.5-15x50 op 12x(laaste) die lynx op 12x en paralaks op 100m was sommer melkerig en teleurstellend, toe ek paralaks op 200 en 300m stel toe is scope baie beter, sien alleswat die ander sien dit vat net so bietjie langer se kyk. Die S&B se beeld was my die "crisp"ste en zeiss het wydste Fov en kon die beste sien in die nag. Die meopta was wragtag nie vêr agter die duitsers nie.

Dit is jammer jy het nie ook n' Meopta Meostar 3-12x56 gehad om te vergelyk met die die ander scopes nie. Ek het n' Meopro 6-18x50 en n' Meostar 3-12x56 en daar is vir my oe n' groot verskil tussen die twee scopes. Die Meostar 3-12x56 is heelwat helderder volgens my.
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Lamtjop wrote:Ek het die week een aand op skietbaan gaan sit met lightforce spotlight op gongbaan gerig, verste is 300m en toe die vlg scopes getoets. Zeiss 3-12×56(beste), Meopta meopro 6-18×50 op 12x(3de plek)Scmidt&bender 3-12×42(2de) en n lynx lx3 2.5-15x50 op 12x(laaste) die lynx op 12x en paralaks op 100m was sommer melkerig en teleurstellend, toe ek paralaks op 200 en 300m stel toe is scope baie beter, sien alleswat die ander sien dit vat net so bietjie langer se kyk. Die S&B se beeld was my die "crisp"ste en zeiss het wydste Fov en kon die beste sien in die nag. Die meopta was wragtag nie vêr agter die duitsers nie.
Dankie vir die deel, maar se net asb vir ons watse model teleskope die Zeiss en S&B was.
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Ek het n Z6 en dit is verseker die helderste scope wat ek nog ooit in die nag mee geskiet het. Het n Duralyt ook maar daar is nie regtig vir my n comparison tussen die twee wat helderheid van glase aanbetref nie.

Die Z6 is egter nie n budget opsie nie. As jy iets tussen R5 en R10k wil probeer kry vir nagskiet, sou my stem beslis aan n tweedehandse S&B 8x56, n Swaro Z3, of n Meopta Meostar gaa. Nou die dag het S&O n 2dehandse 8x56 S&B gehad vir ek dink R3990. Teen daai prys het n ou nog kleingeld oor vir n picatinny rail en n paar ordentlike ringe, en jyt n bul van n scope vir nagskiet.
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Jackalsniper, byde die zeiss en s&b is klassik modelle, ek het nie geld vir victories of pm's nie
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