9.3X62 vs 375H&H

[DWB]

Hehehe, there can be only one.... CZ

Ek is BAIE lus vir daai CZ 9.3 met die fullstock en 21" loop

[Vlakvark]

Ek het .375 HH en ek het ook baie hard gedink aan die 9.3 en snaaks genoeg wou ek hom ook in fullstock he
as ek oot 'n 9.3 koop sal dit met fullstock wees Ek weet nie hoekom nie maar ek soek hom so net die 9.3 ek wil nie iets anders met fullstock he nie

[DWB]

Ja ek het ook iewers so iets gesien.

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Daai is mos nou geweer pornografie

[Danie Lombard .243]

Deksils maar dit is mooi.  Ek en Yollie het nou sopas besluit as daar 'n geld is vir eenkant toe sit ons vir die 9,3 Husqvarna so 'n full stock gaan laat maak. Dit lyk darem net reg.

[DWB]

Ek dink hy voel ook dan sommer net reg!

[vlakvark1]

DWB
Koop sommer altwee kalibers dan kan jy mos beurte maak met hulle [ dan het jy 2 geweerpornografie stukke in jou besit]

[Louis Kriel]

Ja ek het ook iewers so iets gesien.

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Daai is mos nou geweer pornografie

Eeissh mar hy mooi!

[DWB]

Hallo Manne,

Ek het met 'n draai by Dr Kevin "Doctari" Robertson uitgekom en hom ook oor die 9.3 gevra.

Hier is 'n deel van sy antwoord:

I wanted to buy a .375 H&H for the hunting of those 'walk-about' buffalo, but in those early post independent days, there were none to be had so I eventually tracked down the next best option, a Brno ZG 47 in 9,3 x 62 mm.
 
The old timer I bough it from had been for the better part of his working life the crop protection officer for Triangle sugar estates and he conservatively estimated that he had shot 'at least' 600 buffalo with the rifle in the course of his duties. 

He was also of the opinion that the 'nine-three' as he called it killed buffalo quicker than the .375 H&H.

This I did not initially believe but I eventually came to realize that he was correct - certainly for the bullets that were used on buffalo at that time - Kynoch shaped full metal jackets, because softs were just not good enough.

On side-on shots, such solids were invariably found under the skin on the opposite side, while the .375's solids usually exited.
 
I have never regretted not buying a .375. 
 
I eventually took my Zim PH license and needed a 'stopper' so I acquired a .505 Gibbs but my 'nine three' remained my preferred Zambezi valley plains game rifle and it was perfect for the task when loaded with 286 grain Barnes X's.
 
We used to shoot lots on impala in the Zambezi valley in those days and what a confidence booster the nine three was because we often used to bump into buffalo and elephant when doing so. 
 
I always kept 4 solids in the magazine, just in case and this was the confidence booster the rifle provided.
 
As a dedicated bullet digger I became really interested in ballistics and soon realized the importance of bullet sectional density.

The 286 grain .366 and the 300 grain .375 have the same SD of .305.  I wanted a bit more SD so I got Ken Stewart to make me a whole whack of 300 grain .366 Hi-performers.  (SD .320)
 
Man these are effective bullets at velocities in the region of 2300 fps.  Heart-lung shots killed buffalo with authority.

Soon after hunting professionally, a client gave me a .375 H&H - a Browning A Bolt medallion. 
 
At 8.5 pounds the rifle was way too light and kicked like a SOB. 
 
This and the nine-three became my 'clients' rifles and there was always lots of winging about the .375 because it was so unpleasant to shoot. 
 
So I downloaded the .375's 300 grainers to 2350 fps.  This made the rifle a lots nicer to shoot and surprisingly its buffalo performance with 300 grain Hi-performers improved as well.
 
My nine-three weighs 10 pounds and even the fairer sex can shoot it well.  This resulted in good first shot placement and quick kills were the result.

300 grain .366 bullets are a lot better than 286's and I even used 320 grainers (woodleigh FMJ's) for back-up shots at buffalo.  At about 2100 fps they are wonderful penetrators.

My Brno has a 1:14 twist and it shoots 300's and 320's well.

Because I was so happy with 300 grain Hi-perfromers I never tried 320 grain .366 Woodleigh Weldcores but I should think that they would be deadly on close-range bushpigs.

Swift make a 300 grain .366 A-frame which I have also never tried but I'm sure they would be deadly at velocities in the region of 2300 fps.

I once shot a big old wildebeest bull with a 293 grain TUG from my Brno - a full frontal chest shot and I found the rear section of the bullet in the skin next to the bull's anus. 

That is full body length penetration! 
 
350 and 380 grain .375 bullets then became available and they have improved the .375's terminal performance in a big way, but I still believe the 'nine-three' to be an effective, all be it marginally so, DG option.
 
South African Dzombo solids are excellent penetrators.  I have some 286 grainers in .366 and I would not hesitate to use them on an elephant. 

I'm sure it would be possible to get some 300 grain Dzombo's made. 
 
This would be my recommendation.
 
For buffalo, 300 grain Hi-performers would still be my bullet of choice for the first shot, followed by 300 grn Dzombo's.

I hope this helps. 
 
Kevin

[DWB]

Het hierdie foto nou raakgeloop.

Die buffel is met 'n 9.3x62 geskiet!

Dis een mase ding!

Dieselfde ou het geskryf van vol lengte penetrasie op 'n buffel met sy 9.3

[img width=560 height=328]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/65759801/9%2C3x62-Buff.jpg[/img]

[JAGTERSREG-JRM]

Whoooohooooo so praat n 9.3tjie darm mooi!!!!

[vlakvark1]

DBW
Hoe meer ek hier lees hoe meer wil ek ook 1he

[DWB]

En so wen die 9.3 toe vir my!!!!



[img width=560 height=420]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/65759801/IMG_2066.JPG[/img]

[JAGTERSREG-JRM]

Daai foto lyk al klaar mooi in die motivering!!!Dink die 375 gaan stof opgaar.......hehe

[DWB]

Jong, die 375 is skoonpa sin wat in my kluis staan. So ek sal hom vertroos soos nodig, maar nou gaan ons saam die groot bokke laat val!

[Stefan764]

Wat jy betaal Deon?

[DWB]

R11000.00

2de Hands

Die geweer het 10 skote deur hom en het nog die staal magasyn plaat, nie plastiek soos die nuwes.

En dan kom hy met die Lynx 1.25-4.5x26 (30mm tube) op gemount.

Ek het jou reeds gemail oor QR mounts.

Hy het nog swart ivoor onder op die pistol grip en so ewe volledig gebed.

[Louis Kriel]

Daai geweer is so mooi ne, ek sal my vrou verruil vir hom!

[DWB]

Hehehe,

My vrou wou amper vanself loop!

[Beretta]

DWB
Koop nog net die ammo miskien sal dit werk 
Beretta

[DWB]

Ek het nooit ges? ek wil h? sy moet loop nie 

Sy maak darem lekker kos en nog 'n paar ander goed 

Daar is 120 doppe en 125 punte oppad 

[Geno]

Deon, jy't vergeet om te noem dat sy ten minste 'n goeie ma vir Jess ook is!
Wie ander moet die kind oppas terwyl jy gaan jag?

[Vlakvark]

Dalk moet vroulief nou so goue ringetjie of iets van dieselfde waarde kry.
Dit werk vir my. Ek koop net gewoonlik eers vir haar iets, dan voel sy ,sy moet nou 'n ietsie vir my koop, en dan lei ek haar maar nou net in die rigting waar ek iets gesien het wat ek nou nie eintlik nou wil he nie! maar, omdat sy nou so aanhou kan ons dit dan nou net so wel maar nou aanskaf.

[DWB]

Geno, jong, dis volmaan, die varke vreet en ek mag nie gaan nie!!!

Maar vir my vrou is ek liewer as gewere.. Somtyds... Hehehehe

[DWB]

Ek verjaar oor 2 weke... my beurt... Hehehe

[Vlakvark]

Jy het jou beurt 2 weke vroeg gekry