Kort Loop 300wm
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Kort Loop 300wm
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Eks besig met n kortloop bos stamper net om Wouter se hart gelukkig te maak en sal waardeur as iemand vir my op QL kan kyk watse tiepe spoed ek na sal kyk met n 200gr Aframe in n 20” loop 300wm.
Eks nog so 50/50 of ek nie dalk n loop met n groter gat op die CZ magnum aksie sit nie maar weet ook nie of ek regtig lus is vir daai hele proses nou nie.
TPL sal seker hier in die orde van 3.3” wees en H2o seker ook maar hier by 90-92gr wees.
Met so kort loop sal mens seker na n kruit moet kyk wat in die orde van 365 brand?
As iemand lus het vir speel kyk asb vir my watse kruit ek na moet kyk en watse tiepe spoed ek met n 200gr Aframe kan kry. Ek sal verkies om by VV kruit te bly
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Eks besig met n kortloop bos stamper net om Wouter se hart gelukkig te maak en sal waardeur as iemand vir my op QL kan kyk watse tiepe spoed ek na sal kyk met n 200gr Aframe in n 20” loop 300wm.
Eks nog so 50/50 of ek nie dalk n loop met n groter gat op die CZ magnum aksie sit nie maar weet ook nie of ek regtig lus is vir daai hele proses nou nie.
TPL sal seker hier in die orde van 3.3” wees en H2o seker ook maar hier by 90-92gr wees.
Met so kort loop sal mens seker na n kruit moet kyk wat in die orde van 365 brand?
As iemand lus het vir speel kyk asb vir my watse kruit ek na moet kyk en watse tiepe spoed ek met n 200gr Aframe kan kry. Ek sal verkies om by VV kruit te bly
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Re: Kort Loop 300wm
Quick check on GRT using default settings and 20" barrel says:
N550 should give around 2705ft/s (node 6) with 63.4gr. Should be a good speed for the A-Frame.
Alternatively URP looks good - 65.0gr should give a similar velocity.
Note I am NOT a qualified GRT user - thought I would add this to see how it compares with QL (or guidance from GRT gurus)
N550 should give around 2705ft/s (node 6) with 63.4gr. Should be a good speed for the A-Frame.
Alternatively URP looks good - 65.0gr should give a similar velocity.
Note I am NOT a qualified GRT user - thought I would add this to see how it compares with QL (or guidance from GRT gurus)
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Re: Kort Loop 300wm
As ek N550 in hom ook kan gebruik sal dit goed wees dankie. 2650-2700fps will be more than enough for what I want to do with this rifle, thank you
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Re: Kort Loop 300wm
Lyk of VV N165 lekker sal werk, so 2600fps.
N560 sal so 2675fps gee, maar laer ontbrandings%.
Beide net onder 59000psi op node vir wat dit werd is.
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N560 sal so 2675fps gee, maar laer ontbrandings%.
Beide net onder 59000psi op node vir wat dit werd is.
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Re: Kort Loop 300wm
N550 gee maar 85% dopvul, 2690fps by 64000psiCapt. Oblivious wrote:As ek N550 in hom ook kan gebruik sal dit goed wees dankie. 2650-2700fps will be more than enough for what I want to do with this rifle, thank you
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Re: Kort Loop 300wm
N550 and Node 6 is a bit over max pressure.
+-64000 psi as Gian correctly states.
You may just squeak in under pressure with Norma MRP or Viht N560
+-64000 psi as Gian correctly states.
You may just squeak in under pressure with Norma MRP or Viht N560
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Re: Kort Loop 300wm
Lower node with MRP or Viht N560 is +- 2650 fps @ 52400 PSI
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Thats also perfect thanks Dale, I use N560 in another one and was thinking that 2650fps would porb be where ill end up. Think for thicker bush a 200gr Aframe at 2650fps will be more than enough for close work on Koedoe or Eland. This rifle will most likely have a 1-6 mag scope without any bipod or silincer for fast off hand shooting so shots will be under 100m 90% of the time.
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I agree.Capt. Oblivious wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:10 pm
Thats also perfect thanks Dale, I use N560 in another one and was thinking that 2650fps would porb be where ill end up. Think for thicker bush a 200gr Aframe at 2650fps will be more than enough for close work on Koedoe or Eland. This rifle will most likely have a 1-6 mag scope without any bipod or silincer for fast off hand shooting so shots will be under 100m 90% of the time.
200 grain at 2650 fps will be a deadly bush distance combination ( and a little bit further).
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Re: Kort Loop 300wm
Ek wil dit eers sien om te glo. Julle swakgeteeldes sukkel mos maar met die recoil om nie eers te praat van loop en uit die vuis uit skiet nie.Capt. Oblivious wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:10 pm
Thats also perfect thanks Dale, I use N560 in another one and was thinking that 2650fps would porb be where ill end up. Think for thicker bush a 200gr Aframe at 2650fps will be more than enough for close work on Koedoe or Eland. This rifle will most likely have a 1-6 mag scope without any bipod or silincer for fast off hand shooting so shots will be under 100m 90% of the time.
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Hahaha recoil is niks maar die loop en natuurlik uit die vuis skiet is n ander ding, ons sal hom wel nog mooi reg kry
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Kort Loop 300wm
Jy kan selfs n 200gr spartan frontier ook gooi...
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Re: Kort Loop 300wm
Wouter Roets wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:16 pmEk wil dit eers sien om te glo. Julle swakgeteeldes sukkel mos maar met die recoil om nie eers te praat van loop en uit die vuis uit skiet nie.Capt. Oblivious wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:10 pm
Thats also perfect thanks Dale, I use N560 in another one and was thinking that 2650fps would porb be where ill end up. Think for thicker bush a 200gr Aframe at 2650fps will be more than enough for close work on Koedoe or Eland. This rifle will most likely have a 1-6 mag scope without any bipod or silincer for fast off hand shooting so shots will be under 100m 90% of the time.
Ek oefen darem die uit die vuis uit skiet ding. Is wel met n pellet op so 20m nog maar is dam oop versier so lyk of ek dam al die ding kan begin stil hou sonder n bipod voor
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Re: Kort Loop 300wm
`n 30-06 AI met `n 20" loop wat `n 200gr boon @ 2600voete spoeg behoort ook `n lekker bosroer te maak.
Met `n vleisie...
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My huidige 06 skiet n 215gr teen 2650fps maar hy gaan nie aan gekrap word nie
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Re: Kort Loop 300wm
Cappie
Het jy al n 300 met n 20 duim loop se muzzle blast beleef? Moet ook nie recoil weg gooi nie, veral is die geweer aan die ligte kant begin raak. Hy gaan nie vir jou daai tipiese stamp gee nie maar eerder daai wack wat n mens bitter vinnig laat kopsku word. Ek neem aan die geweer het n normale 24 duim loop so ek sou hom net so los en mono's skiet vir die spesifieke doel, of anders sal ek n kompleet nuwe roer met n gepaste kaliber aanskaf uitsluitlik vir bosjag. Daar is n paar bitter nice Sako's hiervoor.
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Het jy al n 300 met n 20 duim loop se muzzle blast beleef? Moet ook nie recoil weg gooi nie, veral is die geweer aan die ligte kant begin raak. Hy gaan nie vir jou daai tipiese stamp gee nie maar eerder daai wack wat n mens bitter vinnig laat kopsku word. Ek neem aan die geweer het n normale 24 duim loop so ek sou hom net so los en mono's skiet vir die spesifieke doel, of anders sal ek n kompleet nuwe roer met n gepaste kaliber aanskaf uitsluitlik vir bosjag. Daar is n paar bitter nice Sako's hiervoor.
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