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[bobby]

ive seen cmj and fmj bullets stop in bodys and also seen hp pass though . ive then also seen fmj pass though and hp stop in bodys .
its what the bullet hits that counts too make it stop in the body or to stop the attack nothing else .
i ll put my faith in my own ammo rather than nicely marketed ammo .
just on the pass though shots does anyone know of a incident in which a bystander was shot from a pass though shot ?
just my 2c

[Plaashaas]

ive seen cmj and fmj bullets stop in bodys and also seen hp pass though . ive then also seen fmj pass though and hp stop in bodys .
its what the bullet hits that counts too make it stop in the body or to stop the attack nothing else .
i ll put my faith in my own ammo rather than nicely marketed ammo .
just on the pass though shots does anyone know of a incident in which a bystander was shot from a pass though shot ?
just my 2c

Bobby are you a medical examiner or coroner? How many GSW bodies have you seen? 7/8 people survive GSW's with handguns, where are you getting the (dead) boddies?

[Jake1]

n Fmj maak nie regtig seer as hy jou tref nie, behalwe kop natuurlik, kombineer dit met adrenalien ook dan is dit nie baie effektief nie, alle jagters behoort dit mos te weet. Ons almal het al bloedspoor gevolg.

[johans]

manne ek dit wat julle hier se is seker waar.ek skiet met my 9mm sommer pmp fmj vir oefen en sv.as daar n kans is dat n kind of ander persoon ook getref gaan word deur my skoot gaan ek nie skiet nie,maak nie saak met watse koel ek skiet nie.die feit dat daar vandag nog net n handjie vol mense is wat carry en wie se handwapen baie ver toegesluit le is vir my n baie groter bekommernis as watse rondtes of holster iemand dra.tenminste dra daai persoon

johan as jy met mense praat wat al hul wapens moes gebruik in so SD situasie sal jy sien daar is nie tyd om te kyk of da kinders rond hang nie, alles is gewoonlik binne 5 tot 10 sekondes verby.Met SD ammo/wapens gaan dit nie oor die die ou dood skiet nie dit gaan oor hom in sy spore te stop en n fmj koel gaan hom nie stop nie tensy jy hom in daai 5sekondes vandat jy agter kom hy val jou aan jou wapen trek en hom tussen die oe op 3m kan skiet.Ranger, Gold dots en daai Federals stop manne met een skoot en dit is nie wat ek op die internet lees nie maar wat mense wat al in so geval sy wapen moes trek om n lewe te beskerem my se.Dit is die rede hoekom die US weermag nou weer kyk na die 45s want n 9mm met n fmj koel het geen stopping power nie.

dankie kaptein dis goed jy se my,ek sal n pakkie of 2 aanskaf

[bobby]

plaashaas , no i was in the townships and a r/cop in the 90's when ever there was a shooting i'd race there . i'd always check to wounds and look at the ammo , not scientific but good enough .
or i used to go sit in the detective offices with one or two of the guys i knew back then and go though the dockets .
yes bullets have changed since then but i'm still not sold on the buy million rand bullets . id use them yes but then id use my own reloads aswell and trust them more too.

[Ratel]

plaashaas , no i was in the townships and a r/cop in the 90's when ever there was a shooting i'd race there . i'd always check to wounds and look at the ammo , not scientific but good enough .
or i used to go sit in the detective offices with one or two of the guys i knew back then and go though the dockets .
yes bullets have changed since then but i'm still not sold on the buy million rand bullets . id use them yes but then id use my own reloads aswell and trust them more too.

In the townships. Ja and were they using Rangers perhaps so that you could make the comparison? Bobby you perhaps had to be present during each post mortem conducted on the bodies to make such deduction. To physically stand on a crime scene and look at the appearance of bullet wounds is just as well you look at a kudu being shot without been present during the skinning process to observe wound channel and tissue damage. I cannot recall one instance where we recovered handguns from criminals in the townships where they carried expensive SD ammo. SAPS/Military fmj 9mm ammo yes. Plenty.

Ek is bekommerd dat ons vir nuwe handwapen eienaars die verkeerde inligting en raad kan gee deur te se fmj is net so goed as Rangers of ander getoetste SD ammo vir SD doeleindes. Jou metodologie oor hoe jy tot jou gevolgtrekking gekom het kan ek ongelukkig nie as volledig beskou nie.

Maar kom ons verskil maar met respek van mekaar oor daai een.